Rake (chicken?) picking.

[DracWell]

Could someone post some cool licks where you do rake/chicken picking? Pref. those including picking with pick + two fingers :P

Nevermind. I should use the search engine a tad more :S

[DemonSorcerer]

Be careful with terms, Raking is not the same as chicken picking...

David

[joeyd929]

Could someone post some cool licks where you do rake/chicken picking? Pref. those including picking with pick + two fingers :P

Nevermind. I should use the search engine a tad more :S

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coYKM6uMQoY

Great example of these skills in use... see link above..

[DracWell]

Be careful with terms, Raking is not the same as chicken picking...

David

Educate me! :)

[DemonSorcerer]

Educate me! :)

Raking is basically a sweep where you mute the notes of the left hand, producing a percussive sound...chicken picking is a technique used in country music where the plucked strings are pulled outward by the fingers of the right hand and the note played immediately dampened by decreasing the pressure of the other hand's finger on the fret...

David

[DracWell]

okay, in another thread I got the impression that rake picking is when your using your pick and the other fingers of your right hand.

[joeyd929]

okay, in another thread I got the impression that rake picking is when your using your pick and the other fingers of your right hand.

That is what my take is on it also..

My impression of raking is when you do sort of arpeggio of a chord form, for example. Pick the first note and then use middle, ring, and even pinky like some of the country players.

You can comp chords this way once you get used to the fact that the note you pick has different dynamics than the plucked notes with fingers.

[joeyd929]

Of course, depending on how you execute the string attack you can create a sort of "chicken" picking sound by raking the notes of a chord in a staccatto like manner. Did I spell that right? Staccatto??

[DemonSorcerer]

okay, in another thread I got the impression that rake picking is when your using your pick and the other fingers of your right hand.

That's called HYBRID PICKING...that's a common technique in country music...

David

[joeyd929]

I attached a little short mp3 of this raking/hybrid thing that I use sometimes for fun, depending on the beat or chords...This is a hack version, but you can get the idea.

It is sort of a hybrid of pick/rake.. Please watch the volume on this file as it may be a little loud because I am not used to transferring from multi track to computer so the levels might be a bit high.. Check out the lick..

My hybrid skills are lame but I can fake it if I have to..

[joeyd929]

Hi. I also have this jazz progression that I play using hybrid picking. The bass note is done with a pick. I jus hold a pick and use the remaining fingers to comp the chords..

Check it out...Again, be careful with the volume.. I use alternate picking for the bass line. I also attached a jpg file of the basic lay out of tab/sheet music for the small repeating piece..

[jokering]

I'm pretty sure chicken picking is the same (or similar) to hybrid picking. Rake picking is a more percussive sweep picking. Atleast, thats my understanding - a 'rake' is when you play the notes in the chord in a slowish strum....

[gersdal]

I'm pretty sure chicken picking is the same (or similar) to hybrid picking.
No, I'm quite sure you're wrong here. Check DemonSorcerer's reply earlier, or any DVD by Danny Gatton, Albert Lee etc to learn about hybrid picking and chicken picken.

The similarity is that you use your left hand fingers and your right hand fingers, but then again ... how else should you play gitar :confused: :D .

[gersdal]

I had to check a little around for what the term rake, and found this statement on GuitarWiki: Rakes are a nice technique that give a certain musical effect, but raking shouldn't be confused with sweep picking. Also listening to the mp3 of joeyd929, I realized that I play "rakes" every now and then, but didn't have a name for it. However, I play rakes with the pick, not with hybrid picking. Both will defenitely do.

[DemonSorcerer]

I'm pretty sure chicken picking is the same (or similar) to hybrid picking. Rake picking is a more percussive sweep picking. Atleast, thats my understanding - a 'rake' is when you play the notes in the chord in a slowish strum....

Be it slow or fast, that's just a strum...in classical music theory, that thing you're mentioning is called an "arpeggio"...mostly because the song resembles that of an harp, y'know....i know it sounds stupid, but again...check the classical music theory...

J's rake examples are right...that's raking...but then you have the kind or rakes that Stevie Ray Vaughn used..he used percussive, muffled string sounds on the first 2 or three notes and the last one sounded right...and you can also reverse or upstroke rake notes...Stevie did that also a lot...

You should take a watch at Eric Johnson's videos...he explains all the picking technique used in country/bluegrass music....they use all the hybrud, chicken picking stuff...

On the other side...if i was sure enough about certain thing...why would i post that in a forum?? for me, it's jsut like "ok, i know my stuff well enough...i know i am right" and wouldn't have the need to post any comment about it...

*sighs...*

David

[jokering]

'Slow strum' really wasn't the right word..
But nonetheless, it appears I have learned it wrong ehhe... ah well, being self taught (until recently) i'm sure I have a lot of wrong ideas and bad habits.

[jokering]

This is what wikibooks sez on the matter:

" Raking

Raking is not a kind of muting, but a technique for applying it. It is vaguely related to sweep picking (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Guitar/Arpeggios_and_Sweep_Picking), but instead of an arpeggio, the result is usually a single percussive-sounding note. (However, sweep picking is sometimes incorrectly notated as a rake in tablature, and sloppy sweep picking may accidentally become a rake.) Between two and four strings are struck, only one containing the desired note and the rest muted. Rakes may be notated in various ways; the most common way is to add muted grace notes, possibly adding the word "rake" to the tablature for clarification."

It sounds kinda what I was thinking...

[DemonSorcerer]

This is what wikibooks sez on the matter:

" Raking

Raking is not a kind of muting, but a technique for applying it. It is vaguely related to sweep picking (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Guitar/Arpeggios_and_Sweep_Picking), but instead of an arpeggio, the result is usually a single percussive-sounding note. (However, sweep picking is sometimes incorrectly notated as a rake in tablature, and sloppy sweep picking may accidentally become a rake.) Between two and four strings are struck, only one containing the desired note and the rest muted. Rakes may be notated in various ways; the most common way is to add muted grace notes, possibly adding the word "rake" to the tablature for clarification."

It sounds kinda what I was thinking...

Don't tell me the sky is blue...when i have looked up to see it...
*sighs*

Dsvid