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peter_traj
06-25-2002, 10:56 PM
when a musician/guitarist creates a song does he write the lyrics first and then put music to the words or does he create the music first and then look to add lyrics?or is the first step creating a rythmic progression and tempo? thank you! Peter

szulc
06-25-2002, 11:10 PM
Do you put on your left shoe or right shoe first?
Do you put your socks on in the same order?

The answer is both this depends on who is writing and what inspires him/her to write/create.

All of the above could be true, or not.

I have written words to existing music and music to existing words, also I have started a tune from the rhythm side.
What anybody else does? No Clue.

Ask a question that someone can answer!

Guni
06-26-2002, 10:29 AM
yeah, szulc is right. There's no answer to this question.

What it comes down to is an initial idea. This could be a rhythmic pattern you pick up somewhere, a simple melody ya whistle in the shower, a single chord ya find quite interesting, lyrics that inspire ya musically, a movie that needs a score, a playstation game, a musical, a ........................

Guni

Zatz
06-26-2002, 02:14 PM
I wholly agree with Szulc and Guni.
I for one have come to a strong belief that the very first thing you gotta have to start from to write any piece of music is INSPIRATION. There is yet another way to compose - just come up with an interesting harmony - say take a fancy chord progression with lots of alterations, modulations, substitutions etc, impose a wave-shaped melody line upon our pervertible background and wait for what comes out. Is this music that comes close from your heart? Never! As I'm professional programmer I once gave birth to a software intended for automating this process. Guess what I said when I listened to this "masterpiece". Nothing polite nor ear-friendly :)
What one needs to write music is inspiration or at least a strong urge to create something beautiful (or maybe ugly and revolting).
Let math and music co-exit not interchange. Anyways, if anyone succeeds in creating mathimatical model (neural network or something else) wrapping up music creation proccess I will be the first to contribute to the development of this project ;)
Listen to your soul!

Very best regards and loads of inspiration to all of you!

Zatz

Guni
06-26-2002, 03:23 PM
hehe, cool reply Zatz. Let's see when we first see this 'INSPIRATION' button within an application. This will be a mega seller :p

btw: what's ya programming expertise? (sorry for changing the subject here). I'm just curious, as we do have a lot of members that seem to be programers / computer geeks and musicians (including myself :D ).

Guni

Zatz
06-26-2002, 04:55 PM
Guni, thnks. Yea LOL :D

There would be such input parameters as money you gonna hit with that song and the time you want it to last on Billboard charts :)

Well, my programming expertise includes mainly DB projects development and physical processes emulating. Now I work as an IT systems engineer at Motorola.

Computers must be the most musical thing ever ;) Look - it has keyboard which might as well be used as drums when your PC hangs up or the software is buggy enough to make you smash it hard :) Chip pins instead of strings. Lots more let alone sound input/output digital/analog interface. OK - you gotta stop me here :D

Click an INSPIRATION button to compose or Lack of Talent to exit :)

So, are we going to start the project? Hey guys, join me and Guni :)

Ultra mega best regards,
Zatz

MusicMuse
06-27-2002, 03:46 PM
Well, you know, you may be on to something. ;)

I'm a techie myself. Not a programmer, but an avid june-of-all-trades. I've dabbled in a little bit of everything. People think I'm whacked because I work on pc's all day , then go home and work on them some more. It's tough, being a geeky girl.

At one time my system was running solely on BeOS. <wistful sigh> I think that OS is to pc's what Opera is to web browsers. A Good Thing. You folks *are* using Opera, right? If not, get it. Way, way cool.

Anyhoo, count me in on yer project. :D