Licks ´n Runs ´n Riffs

[Koala]

What would you guys say about putting up a section in the website where Licks ´n Runs ´n Riffs can be uploaded, either in powertab format or simply as text. To make it work out alright you MUST info about what scale it´s in and anything else extra.

And youd also have to make sure youre not repeating any lick uploaded before.

In an attempt to keep it organized it could be divided into pentatonics, Mixo´s etc etc etc.

I think im getting my point through. Id love to hear your thoughts on it.

[EricV]

I would like that... I think I suggested this before when Guni and me talked about restructuring the forums, so it might happen pretty soon...
Thanks
Eric

[Thorsten]

O.k. guys, great idea!

So here´s my favourite lick/run of the week.

I think you´ll get instant tendonitis if you play it anywhere below the 8th fret:D

Other than that, it´s a real cool pentatonic lick that you can easily incorporate into your blues repertoire...plus... it looks cool!

Keep watching the picking and hammer ons/pull offs...very important!

I´ve attached a powertab file and mp3 so you can hear it up to speed.

Have fun with it!

TK

Pentatonicrun (http://tk.lccy.net/mp3/Pentatonicrun.mp3)

[EricV]

Hey Thorsten,

LOL, cool, you already came up with one. Ok, we can start in this thread, although Koala was talking about the idea of a new extra-forum to upload this stuff, I think =)

OH, can you please attach the ptb-file to a post, or send me both files by email ? For some reason, I can´t download them, I guess it´s because of the spaces in the file-names ?
I could put them into a FTP for people to download.
Thanks
Eric

[snufeldin]

Hey Thorsten,

Dude email them to me as well, I can't open them. If you have any other blues stuff I'd love to see it b/c I remember a funk jam of yours I heard... and it sounded fabulous. Personally I'm more a fan of the bluesy funk stuff than the other types of shredding, and I would just love to see your insight into soloing over it.

email
snufeldin@hotmail.com

[Thorsten]

Yo, Eric! Sorry, here´s the power tab...

Good luck and Thanx!

TK

P.S. You should be able to download the mp3 now!

[snufeldin]

Just another compliment to give out to you....

You sound like a guy name Joe Bonamassa; ever heard of him? Anyway you've got the soul down and yet you can still add the shred in there and make it sound like it belongs.

[Thorsten]

Originally posted by snufeldin
Just another compliment to give out to you....

You sound like a guy name Joe Bonamassa; ever heard of him? Anyway you've got the soul down and yet you can still add the shred in there and make it sound like it belongs.

I don´t know Joe, but thanks a lot for your compliments!

I think we´ll get the chance to trade more licks on this site soon...

:D
TK

[Koala]

Originally posted by EricV
Ok, we can start in this thread, although Koala was talking about the idea of a new extra-forum to upload this stuff, I think =)



Yup Eric thats what i meant but dont it just kick *** that Thorsten already started? hehehehe

I have a feeling theres lots of fun changes about to happen on here....and very few people know about it.....

exciting


yeah a well, organized lick run riff forum would just rock, im guessing powertab would be the best format to use.

[szulc]

Ok, I finally could download this!
Your technique is flawless!

I realize you are a Lefty that plays without restringing but how do you finger this?
1 2 4 or 1 3 4 on each string? and then the last part is that a 1-1 slide?

Do you hold your pick like Eric at a sharp angle to the string and with no anchor?

Pretty Cool, But it is really EMaj (EG#B) AMaj (AC#E) DMaj (DF#A)GMaj (GBD) BMaj (BD#F#) then EMaj again and not E Major Pentatonic (E F# G# B C#)

[Wyll_Watts]

hey guys,

I'm all for the forum/lick collection thing.. very cool..

here are a few random licks that came out in a jam session last night.. well, it was improvised then so this is just a tab of some of the licks as best as I remember them..

all were played on acoustic in kind of a gypsy jazz/rock fusion setting.. the first two were played over an A minor groove the mandolin player was laying down.. he was switchin through some random progressions in the key, but Am, Emaj, Cmaj, Emaj, Am was the main one I believe.. I believe I had a different ending for the second lick, chromatic doublestops I think, can't exactly recall..

the second two were played in a very loose fusion setting with the bass player laying down some funky stuff loosely based on G..

anyways, just some random mess..

Later,
Wyll

[EricV]

OK, so here´s my first contribution to this...

I tabbed out two tapping licks. Both are played on two adjacent strings, and are good exercises for practising tapping with two fingers of the right hand.
I either tap the notes on the high e-string with my middle finger and the ones on the b-string with the index finger ( if I am not holding a pick )
If I do hold a pick ( i.e. playing this lick in between picked passages ) I use the ring- and middle-finger while holding the pick with index finger and thumb.

Lick No.1 is quite similar to a lick I heard Andy Timmons do in "Super 70´s"
Lick No.2 is quite similar to something I played as a fill in the "Rocknight Theme"... this one requires some bigger left hand-stretches

Have fun with those two...
Eric

[EricV]

Originally posted by szulc

I realize you are a Lefty that plays without restringing but how do you finger this?
1 2 4 or 1 3 4 on each string?

I am sure Thorsten will comment on this, but let me add my perspective... I printed the TAB and tried the lick... the patterns feel quite familiar to me, cuz I am using three note per string-pentatonics a lot anyway.
As a right-handed player, I use fingers 1-3-4 for the --12--16--19-- stretch... when I play stuff like that, I hold the guitar slightly different, with the headstock pointing upwards in a approx. 45 degree angle. That makes those kinda stretches a bit easier.

You could also tap the notes at the 19th fret, too...
Cool lick, Thorsten !
Eric

[Slaindude]

I'm totally in favor for the lick and runs collection. But like it was said previously, the riff should include the key, scale, etc.. depending on what is important to make the comprehension of the riff or run easier. Cause there is too much site with riff of all kinds and its like total chaos, cause all you have is a simple tab form with no explanation. Sometimes thats quite enough, but sometimes you want some more, what the author, how does he play it or should we play it, you know those kind of stuff. It always good to learn things on your own, but sometimes its good to have the opinion of someone else, someone better than you.

[Thorsten]

Hey there...

Yeah, I knew that somebody would find out that it´s not exactly a pentatonic lick.:D

The fingering for this is 1-3-4 all the time and the slide is with the index finger. Always a good idea to change positions by simply sliding with your index finger.

I hold the pick at a sharp angle and no anchoring with the pinky or something, just a very loose, floating kinda feel. The picking motion should always come from a relaxed hand not your arm.

Eric is right about the 45 degree angle. Makes it easier to play and here´s your chance to do a rockstar pose ;)

Again thanx for the compliments and I´ll now check out the other licks!

TK

[Koala]

Heres a lick from me. Actually a classic(i dont want to take credit for it, picked it up somewhere, or more likely everywhere). Its a bluesy e minor penationic triplet run i use a lot when jamming. Heres the ptab file (bare with me its the first time i use it) and an mp3, it sounds nicer played slower and with some crunch but i dont have my stuff with me.

[Koala]

And heres the mp3.

[CaptainCarma]

check this one out.

it´s one of the "shorties" that I throw into my solos as a contrast to my ( mostly ) pentatonic oriented style.



Marc

[Thorsten]

Originally posted by Koala
And heres the mp3.

Hey Koala, great lick my friend! You´ve got the blues going!!!

Everybody elses licks are also very cool but it´ll take me years to learn Wyll Watts licks;) It´s too hard! Nobody can play this exept Shawn Lane;)

Thank you...
TK

[Wyll_Watts]

glad you liked the licks Thorsten.. I love that PG quote.. on those last to licks I really was doing some Shawn Lane imitation.. I'm pretty sure I picked those up from something similar he played live in Blacksburg one time.... I can only play that sort of stuff after about an hour of warm-up and several beers..
those first two licks were sort of a Django meets Yngwie sort of thing...

I've been working on parts of some Bach preludes from the Well Tempered Clavier lately.. there are some cool licks hiding in there..
here is the first few bars of a Bach prelude.. I havn't been able to get this one super fast yet, I think the way the patterns I'm used to using fall in between two triplets is throwing me off.. anyways, maybe some of you guys might one rip off some Bach too...

Wyll

[Wyll_Watts]

and here is a Bach prelude in G major.. just the first repeating part of it actually..

Wyll

[Koala]

Another Minor Pentatonic run, this ones in G. Nothing flashy, just going up the scale patterms on the top two strings, very useful for creating a nice tension before exploding into a huge bend :)

You can do this on any adjacent strings going up the scale patterns or string skipping as well. You could also try to incorporate bends, and tappings and different rythmic structures that suit your style better.


Thanks for the comments thorsten!

[Koala]

Well now that we got our little section under way in here id like to propose a standard file naming format so that when we (or at least I :) ) download all these licks n riffs n runs and put em all into a folder i know what theyre all about.

How about using a format like this

Key - Scale or scales its in - any additional comment


Any other ideas for naming files are more than welcome.

GREAT LICKS EVRYONE! GREAT SONGS WYLL, jk jk. how long does it take you to write all that down in ptab? probablly less than itll take me to learn it all!!!! :)

Shred on...on....on :)

[szulc]

Diminished scale Lick(Sort of).
This is based on some crazy licks I used to improvise that actually don't fit into any scale but I made parts of these fit the diminished scale.
Best when the ascending and descending half-steps are pseudo- randomized. The other thing is once this gets going there is no real need to contain ones self within the confines of the dim scale.
The constant half step motion makes it "make sense"(or Nonsense) regardless of key or tonality. So since it is equally outside it just doesn't matter. But it sounds cool, (and is easy to play) and that is what matters doesn't it?

[szulc]

PTB of above including some other strange dim like ideas.

[Wyll_Watts]

great licks Szulc

Here are some more licks guys.. first two are licks similar to stuff you can hear in Gypsy jazz and new acoustic music.. Django and Tony Rice use similar things to end or start solo sections..

the next one is sort of a slow arp that sounds cool.. let all notes ring as long as you can.. this is another lick borrowing ideas from Shawn Lane..

the last lick is sort of outside sounding, first part is sort of similar to the kinda-diminished things szulc showed us..

Later,
Wyll

[The Bash]

Here's A collection of Classic Licks and Variations

I've each one set up to repeat 24times with progession to play lick over. You can/should also slow down the tempo if need be if ya wanna learn the lick clean :)

I always recommend to save the powertab your learning under a new name. For example if your learn Over the Mountain save a second copy as something like OvertheMountainA or something.
That way you can add repeats to sections you wanna prac over and over and also slow down the tempo. You could, of course do that anyway, but you might mess up your orginal tab and have to download it all over again, and wadda doing downloading tabs for when you should be practicing.

Anyways, I think there's some good bulding block licks in there for those just learnin to solo.

P.S. Hopefully Powertab dosen't mess up my text again my version looks fine right now, but just in case the words look a little funny you may have to put the text back outta the way.

[The Bash]

Here's a little live thing you can fine sum the above licks crammed into in someway shape or form. It's live and IMO the phrases are a bit rushed and sloppy in spots, but hey that's why the call it live.

[videochile]

Well this is a riff I like to play when improvising. Im guessing its inspired by jimi hendrix (my idol incase the handle didnt give that away already!!). I havent as yet got the power tab downloaded, so I hope no one is too annoyed if I bend the rules this once and put up my mp3 till I have the program :)

By the way Bash...nice file. Very melodic, Is it just me or does that also have a touch of hendrix in it?

[szulc]

Bash,
I like the percussive parts! 36-50 and 110-115.

[Bizarro]

Here's some bluesy type licks from a popular tune my band plays, most of the licks are in the same vein as the Bash's post...

There are several mistakes, but it's live and I wasn't really paying attention to what I was playing... that song gets really old really fast ;) Having said that, there are some licks in there that I think are neat.

[szulc]

Bizarro,
I like the vibratto on the first couple notes of this.

[szulc]

This is one anybody who has heard me play will recognize.
Em Arp Lick. The thing about this that makes it work and sound cool is the fact that the slides occur every 4th note, and the lick is in triplets, this is a form of the concept of accent displacement. You would normally want to slide every third note to match the triplet pattern. But this way the slides occur between 3-1, then 1-2 then 2-3. In this case it is not the accents that are displaced but the slides.

[szulc]

Here is the fast mp3.

[szulc]

Here is the slow version

[szulc]

Pick hamer pull pick hammer pull.....

[szulc]

PTB of triplick

[Wyll_Watts]

cool licks James..

I use a similar Em arp alot too.. those wide range arps have a cool flow to them...
There really has been some cool stuff in this thread, I guess that's good news for the upcomming lick/forum thing..

Later Guys,
Wyll

[Thorsten]

All righty...

So here´s another pentatonic idea.

Two notes per string all the time and again keep watching the picking and hammer ons/pull offs...very important to be able to play it up to speed!

The first powertab is the basic idea and the second a variation that goes through all the positions.

Again there´s millions of variations on that one. Try to come up with your own!

Shred!

TK

[Thorsten]

Variation lick:


P.S. Very cool licks from everybody so far!

[Bizarro]

Here are some variations of a lick I came up with when I was still trying to be the next guitar god (before grunge came along...)!

It's basically a legato way to play arpeggios across many strings. Once you get comfortable with this lick, you hardly have to pick anything at all and it still sounds great.

I used to play sequences of this lick over various chord progressions (I-vi-ii-V, Pachelbel's Canon in D, etc) for my big solo spots in garage band gigs!

Enjoy! I still occasionally play stuff like this at the local Guitar Center when the young wankers start showing off! This usually shuts them up while they try figure out what I'm playing, and gives my ears a much needed break from the cacophony.


ca·coph·o·ny ( P ) Pronunciation Key (k-kf-n)
n. pl. ca·coph·o·nies
Jarring, discordant sound; dissonance: heard a cacophony of horns during the traffic jam.
The use of harsh or discordant sounds in literary composition, as for poetic effect.

don't mind the naming convention of the file, these are all in A (Amaj7, A7, Am7)

[Bizarro]

TK, I play those licks all the time! It really fits with economy picking and hyper-speed!

[Thorsten]

Economy picking is cool but you might not get such an aggressive tone out of the strings compared to alternate picking. Of course that´s depending on how you want to sound like but for me alternate works best.

Get ready for HYPER-SPEED! (KAT quote!):D

TK

[The Bash]

Hey Videochile, James Thnxs
And yea there's prob a touch of Hendrix in there :)
He was one of my earliest influnces and someone I listened to (and still do) for so long that waddever I play prob gotta touch of him in it.
That percussive thing James refers to was most likey a Hendrix/Trower influnce. Don't know it it actually sounds like Hendrix or Trower but'd be my guess as to where that kinna thing came from.

[Bizarro]

Economy picking is cool but you might not get such an aggressive tone out of the strings compared to alternate picking.

Very true. I made the switch to alternate picking about a year ago and it has been a rough transition. I used to have very advanced picking skills using e.p., but I don't get to play guitar very much anymore so it was difficult to be consistent.

So I made the switch to strict alternate picking! It's not easy "unlearning" 20 years of work, but it's coming along. It is frustrating to start over in this manner but it'll be for the best in the long run.

TK, I really admire your fast picking tone!:D Ultra clean and precise, very fluid, very much like PG in many ways. I'd like to get to that point myself someday.

[Thorsten]

Bizarro, very cool! That´s somewhat unusual to start out with economy picking. Most people first try the alternate thing and maybe later switch to economy cause they´ve never heard of it before. I think Frank Gambale really is the king of economy and what he does is just wonderful.
For me I do some lines that I economy pick but for the most it´s alternate.

Thanks a lot for your nice compliments, really appreciate it!

Keep picking...
TK

[Tekker]

Here's a couple misc tunes... I think you'll recognize these. lol! :D

tkr_misc.ptb (http://www.artistcollaboration.com/~tekker/tkr_misc.ptb)

-tkr

[The Bash]

Actually there's nothing extreme about this arp (its actually pretty simple) other than I swiped it from Nuno.

It's just a simple string skipping arp that nuno seems to like to use a lot. I've been working on some licks using this idea and thought about posting some but then I thought "Who Cares"
unless your actually wanna play my song what I myself do with the idea ain't all that usefull to anyone but myself. It's the basic idea itself thats important.

So I simply laid out a simple A Major Triad string skipping arp on the 4 string sets. You can flat the 3rd to turn em into to minor. Move em around to get the other chords. Twist em up to make em more intresting. Tinker with flatting a root a 1/2 step to toss in a Major 7 or whole step for b7 etc.

Just take the idea (and I'm sure it's not a new idea to most of you, but maybe someone out there has never thought of it befoore) and do your own thing with it

This also (IMO) makes a good picking ex. for myself I find my right hand is far more relaxaed playing on 2 strings than just 1 and that it relaxes even more for string skipping. Ok maybe that's weird but, I think I get more of my strumming motion (wrist motion) when I've got further to go (string skipping).

I also posted a variation pattern that one can apply to all string sets. And a very brief and incomplete example as to how I sort of have been using the idea.

Use it as a building block for musical ideas.
Use it as a picking ex.
Use it as a musical picking ex (make a little etude out of it)(or apply it to a actual progression)

[The Bash]

Hey Thorsten, those are some really cool pen. licks/ ideas BTW.
I hadda chance to play around with them past few day. Very cool ideas that everyone can use. Even someone like me that can't shred :) But hey, it's the idea that counts not just copping someone elses lick and playing it right back at em as is. I mean hey, they already did that right. Idea is what can you do with it.

[Thorsten]

Thanks a lot, Bash! Glad you like the licks. Yep, that was the idea. Pentatonic is probably the stuff you play most on the guitar and it´s always the stuff you fall back on.

BTW, very nice skipping licks. There´s millions of variations on those, too.

TK

[Koala]

Heres some other stuff you can play in Am, real nice song enders.

[Koala]

Heres an Em pentatonic blues run, that end with some SRV flavor.

[Koala]

Heres an Eb Minor Pentatonic Run, might sound familiar to some of you.

BTW anyone else planning on posting on here? The threads been dead for some time now.

[EricV]

A lick similar to something I played in the solo of my newest song "Riders High", involving string-skipping and taps. Measure 1 shows the l.h-version only, measure 2 incorporates taps...
Have fun !
Eric

[Koala]

Originally posted by EricV
A lick similar to something I played in the solo of my newest song "Riders High", involving string-skipping and taps. Measure 1 shows the l.h-version only, measure 2 incorporates taps...
Have fun !
Eric


Kickass lick Erirc!

[The Bash]

Here's another Nuno swiped lick
with string skipping/hammers and pulls
I view this as basic arp even though ya got the second tossed in as well.

This one starts with the fifth then goes r-2-3-2-1
you can do with with all string sets
and of course start somewhere other than the fifth.
or mess up the order of notes
or any twisted thing ya can come up with.

[The Bash]

This is just a simple idea in aminor/c major or modes there of
the idea is to skip strings (in this case the second string)
other than that it's just up the scale with hammers
slide to next postion
down the scale with pulls
slide to new postion etc.

Not the worlds most muscial thing as is,
more an idea than a lick

[videochile]

God..I know what an illiterate must feel like!! Just reading the way you guys talk about music and all the theory is wierd. I play things mainly by ear and loosely base it on my limited knowledge of chord progressions.

I hope some of what you guys are talking about rubs off on me too :)

[forgottenking2]

Cool licks!! I hadn't seen this part of the site, I wonder how many more "Hidden Treasures" you guys have here... I don't have anything to post yet, hopefully I'll get my technique back up soon.

[CaptainCarma]

another short repeating lick that I often use...

[Koala]

Originally posted by forgottenking2
[B... I don't have anything to post yet, hopefully I'll get my technique back up soon. [/B]

Hey forgottenking2 just post anything you like to play, even if its not shred a 3 note line.....anything will do!

[Zatz]

Hi there!

Here's the very simple outro to a folk song in Dm which I play on my acoustic.

It has some acciaccaturas in it.

Zatz.

[EricV]

Originally posted by Koala
Kickass lick Erirc!

Hey there,

glad you liked it. I attached a short MP3 of me playing a short solo using that string-skipping pattern in F Major, tapping included

Erirc :)

[Zatz]

Hi guys,

Considering that this thread has become a universal lick storage I thought that another short thread with some dissonant licks, posted by myself and EricV, might fit in here well too.

Dissonant licks (http://www.ibreathemusic.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1052)

Ultra mega best regards,
Zatz.

[videochile]

This is a little intro from one of the songs ive written. Some finger tapping nothing over the top.

[The Bash]

Hey Eric, nice delay :)
Almost sounds like a harmony lick.
I know you've seen Steve Morse do that delay, self harmony thing.
Don't know it that was your intent, but created a very cool effect.

On a completly diffent note this is a few very simple supportive kinna licks fron one my tunes. Not exactly mind boggling :)
but hopefully they suceed in moving the song forward.

Ok so here goes, for no ther reason than I felt like it :)
That and I like getting my but kicked by all you mega players, it gives me inspiration.

[videochile]

Nice little phrase after the singer says "chicks every night" ;)

[EricV]

Originally posted by The Bash
Hey Eric, nice delay :)
Almost sounds like a harmony lick.
I know you've seen Steve Morse do that delay, self harmony thing.

I sure did see him do that a few times. Did you see the DVD yet ? That live-show from NY ? Where he does that unaccompanied solo with all the echoes ?
Actually, the player who got me interested in that self-harmony stuff was Brian May... I loved the "Brighton Rock Solo" on Queen´s "Live At Wembley"... beautiful ideas and effects in there...
The delay you here on that lick was created by a VST-plugin. Compared to a pedal, it´s very easy to dial in the exact correct delay-time, so the delay is in sync with the tempo...
Eric

[videochile]

Hi eric,
I have a wierd request....but what the heck :) Not sure if you have listened to that file i uploaded, but do you know what key I'm playing in? I played that because it sounded good. However it would be nice to know what is going on in terms of progression.

[EricV]

I´d say it´s E min. I made a short Powertab of a similar kinda lick, using the notes you used ( so it´s not an exact TAB, but kinda similar to what you played there ) ... it´s pretty much all Em, although at the end, by going down to Eb, you create a certain harmonic minor-ish sound... the first bar works well over Em- or Am-chords, the second one is Emin ( check out the notes... E-F#-G-B... that´s an arpeggiated Emadd9, just like the first bar could be considered an Amadd9 ), and the third one goes into Harmonic minor-land
Hope this helps
Eric

[EricV]

And, as another idea:

It´s pretty easy to figure out chords for a lick like this if you simply look at the notes you´re playing ( after all, you´re tapping arps ), and create chords from that.
So, in the ptb attached to this post, I made a little etude from your tapping pattern, and added chords.
Key of Em, the chords go: A5 ( Amin )-E5 ( Emin )-Ebmin+5-Emin
That´s one thing you can do with that lick... has a certain Yngwie-ish drama to it :)
Eric

[videochile]

Thanks for that Eric!! :)

[Shred Fan]

Nice work there Eric. Goes to show how a reasonably simple phrase can sound so good for the simple reason that it relates to the chords being played.

[szulc]

I came up with these when trying to figure out an alternate way to play fast sextuplet pent patterns. Since I can 't seem to strictly alternate pick these ideas with two note per string patterns, I tried and alternate approach using sweeps or mini-sweeps.

It is the same set of notes picked and fingered 4 different ways.
There are four groups of sextuplets ascending through the E minor Pentatonic scale. The first sextuplet is always shown fingered the same way (as I couldn't figure out a better way to execute this). The next three are variations of 3 notes on the G string then 1 note on the E string then 2 notes on the E string (312) and 2 notes on the G string then 1 note on the E string then 3 notes on the E string (213). Where the Note on the B string is always swept down as a continuation of the pick stroke from the last note on the G string. The third staff has the picking that makes the most sense, but for some reason is not the one I am best at. All of the other staves have at least one hammer on to make the picking work out. When I get back to my guitar (on vacation now!) I'll try to send in an MP3 of this.

[Thorsten]

Yo szulc! Cool idea you came up with for the sextuplets.

This is the way I would play it using 3 notes per string and all alternate picking starting with a downstroke.
The wide stretches might feel funny at first but once you get the hang of it (just practice till your fingers get numb) you can really play it faaaaaast.
Also you can use the same fingering playing it downwards. Keep watching the little string skip!

You can also extend the lick to even more strings and play it up and down all over the neck.

BTW, Paul Gilbert used that one in the intro to "Colorado Bulldog"

Other than that, I like your version very much too!

Best
TK

[The Bash]

Hey Eric, I haven't heard the DVD yet, hope to order it sometime this month, but I've heard Steve do that in his Deep Purple Solo Spot. At first I thought was him and Jon Lord, I had no idea what was happening, then the more I listened I realised was a delay.

And how could I forget the Brighton Rock solo!
I had this dealy pedal once (think it was Digitech, was a stompbox) that you could get some long delays outta and actually sample a few seconds with. Anyway, I used play around with that kinna stuff (hit a drone note and solo on top, or putta harmony on top of a simple 3 note line then a harmony on top of it as it repeated etc.)
Anyways, like an idiot I sold it when I gotta Effects processor. It had a millon and one things you could do but I miss the simplicity of that pedal. I knew exactly what it did and knew how to get what I wanted out of it. That and the ole pedal was great for recording demo vocals.

That delay you got on that little lick is perfect, your right its right on top of what your doing. Actually, the little lick itself reminds me of Satch the delay made me think of Steve.

[The Bash]

Here's few little Arp like ideas I've been playing around with.
More Ideas than actual licks.

The first use what I view as an arp though there really just 3rds with a 2nd tossed in more as a passing note or simply cause its in the way and we feel the urge to hit it.
Its just a simple Circle 4 in Am.
Well, actually I lied cause I borrowed the Major V from Harmonic Minor over the orginal minor 5 chord.

The seconds a short circle 4 pattern as well (I tabbed out first few chords, your own your own from there.)

The rest are just Diatonic Am arp ideas.

Take them and apply them to an actual progression.
Try them on all possible strings or string sets.
Try variations using diffrent inversions.

Prac. this stuff this way will help you learn the fingerboard better.
That way you can play any idea anywhere on the fretboard in Am
now just #6 and ya know em all in Em or A Dorian.
or b2 and ya got Dm or A Phrygian.
Or all the modes there of.

[The Bash]

Here'a little picking Etude I wrote that uses that Root 3rd thing to outline chord shapes. There's also some other stuff tossed in here as well.

I'm sure Eric will remember this one :)
Actually its still here someplace but was easier to repost it than look for the link.

Anyway this little Etude was inspired by Eric V's little picking trilogy.

[szulc]

Thorsten,
I'll try your method when I get back to my guitar. I suspect I'll get tendonitius though!

[The Bash]

Yea, that's gotta hurt :)
Actually I can confirm this.

But very cool ideas from both ya.

[EricV]

Bash,

very cool arpeggio exercises there ! I especially like B

And of course I remember "my" etude... thanks again for that :)
Eric

[EricV]

from my newest tune, "Hold On Tight" ( demo-version available at my site ( MP3 ))
The first one is a rather classic one, a bit similar to some licks by Jimmy Page or Ace F., or even Steve Morse. I thought about harmonizing that one, adding another guitar playing that exact same line a third higher... but I didn´t

The second one is the pedal-tone-ish thing I played after the main-solo ( overdub )

Eric

[The Bash]

Hey Eric, nice licks.
I really like the 1st one.
Just curious what fingers u using for the 19 and 20 fret ring or pinky.
For stuff like that I'd normally fret 17 with 2 and use 3 for 19 and 20.

[EricV]

I use a mini-bar at the 15th fret, then I fret the note at the 17th with my ring finger, and the notes at the 19th and 20th fret with my pinkie...
Thanks
Eric

[EricV]

Originally posted by Wyll_Watts


I've been working on parts of some Bach preludes from the Well Tempered Clavier lately.. there are some cool licks hiding in there..
here is the first few bars of a Bach prelude.. I havn't been able to get this one super fast yet, I think the way the patterns I'm used to using fall in between two triplets is throwing me off.. anyways, maybe some of you guys might one rip off some Bach too...

Wyll

Wyll, when I saw your arrangement of it, I remembered that Tony MacAlpine once did an arrangemnent for that too... it was tabbed out in one of his columns.
I attached a ptb of that to this post. It´s dang hard to play it...
Eric

[Wyll_Watts]

Hey Eric, thanks for the post man! I didn't know Tony had done an arrangement of that prelude.. he has a pretty cool version there, gives me some ideas for adjusting some of the fingerings.. I've arranged little pieces of just about all the preludes and fuges.. arranging the entire things is almost impossible for some of them.. but there are alot of cool phrases all through Bach's work.. if you get the chance, check out some of Bach's Cello suite Minuets (which may already have done lol )... they are sometimes overlooked in favor of the other, larger pieces in the cello suites, but they have some lines that just scream to be shredded on...

but on the original subject.. prelude 6 has such a cool sound that it just begs to be played, even though it's really difficult to get up to speed.. do you know if Tony ever recorded this or maybe slipped it into another song? I've tried it on piano too, and the fingerings are much easier but I'm not very fast on the key instruments.. it's just going to end up being one of those pieces I keep comming back to on guitar from time to time making little bits of progress without burning out.. (like with Power Cosmic.. oh my god that things is so frustrating lol..)
Anyways, thanks for the file Eric..

Wyll

[EricV]

I am not aware of any TM-recording of this. About it being easier on the keyboard... maybe he learned it on keyboard first and then did an arrangement for the guitar as an exercise... ? After all, he´s a killer keyboard-player, too...

I agree on the cello suites... beautiful stuff

Eric

[EricV]

This is a little "etude" I once came up with while working on some tough arps. I used a clean sound and was playing all kinda of tough arpeggios like m11- and maj9-shapes, fretting one note at a time.
Soon, I had the progression Am11-Gmaj9-Fmaj9-Am11-Cmaj9-Dmaj9-Emin11, and once I added an echo ( represented here by Guitar II ), repeating the original notes a dotted eigth note later, I turned it into this little etude.
If you wanna hear Guitar I by itself, simply go to Guitar Setup menu and switch Guitar II off...
Hope you´ll like it
Eric

[Koala]

Hey Eric thats a beautiful little etude, reminded me a bit of track 5 on bucketheads colma. Real nice, and a good good exercise.

[Wyll_Watts]

hey eric, cool etude man.. I agree with koala it does remind me a bit of the arps buckethead throws into the middle of big sur moon.. Satch has a cool arp/delay thing at the beginning of the song Turkey Man for those of you who want to explore some more stuff like this..

Wyll

[Koala]

Big sur moon, thanks wyll.

[Koala]

Ummm why does this thread title say Sticky?

[EricV]

We made it "sticky", which means it will remain on top of the topic list and will be easy to find for anyone who wants to read it or add licks, runs n riffs...
Eric

[szulc]

I find these Sticky's Very Annoying!
Since I can't always easily find the new stuff!

[Koala]

You know, i always use the reda new posts section, but from whats being said here i can figure out threads go in each section according to the date they were posted right?

[Koala]

Oh yeah heres the ptb file of a nice blues shred lick a friend passed along.