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learnbass
03-01-2011, 09:06 PM
Hi,
I am new here. And I am new to music. I am interested in learning Bass. I found (online) Lyrics and chords for "You Raise me up". Notes are mostly # and #7 or #6. For example, Bb7, F#7, F#6.

What bass note to play for chord Bb7?
What bass note to play for chord F#7?
What bass note to play for chord F#6?

Thanks

JonR
03-01-2011, 11:39 PM
Hi,
I am new here. And I am new to music. I am interested in learning Bass. I found (online) Lyrics and chords for "You Raise me up". Notes are mostly # and #7 or #6. For example, Bb7, F#7, F#6.

What bass note to play for chord Bb7?
What bass note to play for chord F#7?
What bass note to play for chord F#6?

ThanksThe numbers are extensions - extra notes added to the basic triad - and you generally needn't worry about them on bass.
In this case, the "#" refers to the root note, not the extension. So F#7 and F#6 are just F# major triads with a 7th and 6th added.

Bb triad = Bb-D-F (root-3rd-5th). 7th would be Ab.
F# triad = F#-A#-C# (root-3rd-5th). 7th would be E; 6th would be D#.

As a bassist, if in doubt, just play the chord root - with the 5th as an optional additional note.

But I'd be surprised if you've seen Bb7 and F#7 (or F#6) in the same song. Are you sure about those chords? Which site did you find them on?

Malcolm
03-02-2011, 12:15 AM
What bass note to play for chord Bb7?
What bass note to play for chord F#7?
What bass note to play for chord F#6?

http://www.guitarhangout.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/bass-guitar-notes.jpg

Roots work. For the Bb7 (A#/Bb) play the B flat note to the song's beat. Bb-Bb-Bb-Bb or in bass language we say Root-Root-Root-Root or just R-R-R-R.
F#7 play the F# note to the song's beat. F#-F#-F#-F# or R-R-R-R.
F#6 play the F# note to the song's beat.
Those are all major chords so..... for a full chord tone R-3-5 will work. If you want to get the 7 or 6 into the picture, both of the 7ths are dominant sevenths so the b7 or R-3-5-b7 would be the way to go. For the F#6 try R-3-5-6. The following will explain all that R-3-5 stuff. http://www.smithfowler.org/music/Chord_Formulas.htm

The bassist will be playing chord tones as Jon said. The bass is primarily an accompaniment instrument so -- when accompanying play chord tones and when soloing then scales and or modes come into the picture. That's kinda important read that again. Follow the chords and play chord tones when you are functioning as an instrument in the rhythm section. When you are given a lead break (solo) then scales or modes. Right now stay with chord tones. What's that? They told you to play your scales - scales are a right of passage thing, so go ahead not going to do any harm. But, how often will you use scales? I guarantee you will be using chord tones more than scales so.... get some chord tone patterns into muscle memory. When you start getting some lead break solos that's the time to use your scales and modes. http://www.studybass.com/lessons/bass-chord-patterns/chord-tones-are-primary/

Here is the major scale box pattern with interval numbers shown:
G|---2---|-------|---3---|---4---| 1st string
D|---6---|-------|---7---|---8---|
A|---3---|---4---|-------|---5---|
E|-------|---R---|-------|---2---|4th string .. Give R-5-R-5 a try. How about R-5-8-5 - that pattern is a piece of cake. Place the root note and all the other intervals will always be in their spot waiting for you, i.e. the 5 is always up a string and over two frets. The 8 is always one string up from the 5, etc.


How many of the chord tones should you play? Depends......
R-R-R-R just roots play a lot of bass.
R-5-R-5 adds a little and keeps it interesting.
The 8 is just a root in another octave so....
R-5-8-5 is a generic bass line that works over most any chord. I suggest you get this pattern into muscle memory.
The 3 is generic to major chords so... R-3-5-8 works well with major chords.
The b3 is generic to minor chords so... R-b3-5-8 or b7 works well with minor chords.
The 7 is generic to maj7 chords.
The b7 is generic to dominant sevenths and minor sevenths.
The 6 is neutral - throw in some 6's for color. R-3-5-6.
The 2 and 4 make good passing notes. Just do not linger or land on them. R-2-5-8 or R-3-4-6.

Get some fake chord sheet music - follow the chords - and see what bass line goes best with this specific song. Start with just roots and change as the chords change. Then throw in some fives. Then add the 8 - you take it from here ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUK5pE5x_6A Just roots.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmsyYyUHZ_o&feature=related See what you can do with this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4x0uLDfhW0&feature=related Start with roots and work toward:
Am7 = R-b3-5-b7
GM7 = the big M indicates major or G7 so R-3-5-b7
F#m75b = R-b3-b5-b7
Em / Eb7 in the same measure. Two beats per chord is all the room you have so..... Em = R-b3 and Eb7 how about R-b7. Two beats per chord you make the decision which two notes to use. R-5 for both would work.....

That should get you going......

Have fun.

learnbass
03-03-2011, 05:08 PM
Thank JonR,
Here is the site http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/j/josh_groban/you_raise_me_up_crd.htm

learnbass
03-03-2011, 05:09 PM
Thanks Malcom for the info. I could learn alot from your posts.





What bass note to play for chord Bb7?
What bass note to play for chord F#7?
What bass note to play for chord F#6?

http://www.guitarhangout.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/bass-guitar-notes.jpg

Roots work. For the Bb7 (A#/Bb) play the B flat note to the song's beat. Bb-Bb-Bb-Bb or in bass language we say Root-Root-Root-Root or just R-R-R-R.
F#7 play the F# note to the song's beat. F#-F#-F#-F# or R-R-R-R.
F#6 play the F# note to the song's beat.
Those are all major chords so..... for a full chord tone R-3-5 will work. If you want to get the 7 or 6 into the picture, both of the 7ths are dominant sevenths so the b7 or R-3-5-b7 would be the way to go. For the F#6 try R-3-5-6. The following will explain all that R-3-5 stuff. http://www.smithfowler.org/music/Chord_Formulas.htm

The bassist will be playing chord tones as Jon said. The bass is primarily an accompaniment instrument so -- when accompanying play chord tones and when soloing then scales and or modes come into the picture. That's kinda important read that again. Follow the chords and play chord tones when you are functioning as an instrument in the rhythm section. When you are given a lead break (solo) then scales or modes. Right now stay with chord tones. What's that? They told you to play your scales - scales are a right of passage thing, so go ahead not going to do any harm. But, how often will you use scales? I guarantee you will be using chord tones more than scales so.... get some chord tone patterns into muscle memory. When you start getting some lead break solos that's the time to use your scales and modes. http://www.studybass.com/lessons/bass-chord-patterns/chord-tones-are-primary/

Here is the major scale box pattern with interval numbers shown:
G|---2---|-------|---3---|---4---| 1st string
D|---6---|-------|---7---|---8---|
A|---3---|---4---|-------|---5---|
E|-------|---R---|-------|---2---|4th string .. Give R-5-R-5 a try. How about R-5-8-5 - that pattern is a piece of cake. Place the root note and all the other intervals will always be in their spot waiting for you, i.e. the 5 is always up a string and over two frets. The 8 is always one string up from the 5, etc.


How many of the chord tones should you play? Depends......
R-R-R-R just roots play a lot of bass.
R-5-R-5 adds a little and keeps it interesting.
The 8 is just a root in another octave so....
R-5-8-5 is a generic bass line that works over most any chord. I suggest you get this pattern into muscle memory.
The 3 is generic to major chords so... R-3-5-8 works well with major chords.
The b3 is generic to minor chords so... R-b3-5-8 or b7 works well with minor chords.
The 7 is generic to maj7 chords.
The b7 is generic to dominant sevenths and minor sevenths.
The 6 is neutral - throw in some 6's for color. R-3-5-6.
The 2 and 4 make good passing notes. Just do not linger or land on them. R-2-5-8 or R-3-4-6.

Get some fake chord sheet music - follow the chords - and see what bass line goes best with this specific song. Start with just roots and change as the chords change. Then throw in some fives. Then add the 8 - you take it from here ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUK5pE5x_6A Just roots.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmsyYyUHZ_o&feature=related See what you can do with this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4x0uLDfhW0&feature=related Start with roots and work toward:
Am7 = R-b3-5-b7
GM7 = the big M indicates major or G7 so R-3-5-b7
F#m75b = R-b3-b5-b7
Em / Eb7 in the same measure. Two beats per chord is all the room you have so..... Em = R-b3 and Eb7 how about R-b7. Two beats per chord you make the decision which two notes to use. R-5 for both would work.....

That should get you going......

Have fun.

JonR
03-03-2011, 05:24 PM
Thank JonR,
Here is the site http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/j/josh_groban/you_raise_me_up_crd.htmAh I see - the song changes key! (why didn't I think of that...:rolleyes:)

andrew15
06-28-2011, 10:51 AM
You are right, i also think so


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