100 best guitarist by Rollings Stones

[loveguitar]

I just saw a piece of news that the Rollingstone magazine
have come up with a new 100 best guitarists. Anyone knows
where this new list is?

Just know that Jimi Hendrix is at the top. EC at fourth.
Jimmy Page in the top ten. Curious to know if Eric Johnson
is there on the list as he's my fav guitarist :)

[Anubis]

One thing I have always hated is top lists.
I just can't stand seeing them.
I don't like it when music turns into a contest.
It's also worth to remember that almost every year a music magazine makes a list like the one that is in Rolling Stone.
If people have to make a list I think they should separate it into categories like best jazz guitarist, best metal etc..
Rolling Stone is a magazine that is obviously aimed at rock/blues from the 60's and 70's and therefore many of the top players of the 80's and 90's especially shredders doesn't get any attention at all.
Over the years I have seen many top lists of best guitar players in various magazines.
Magazines such as Guitar Player and Guitar World have made lists like that many times.
The U.K magazine guitarist did a list of top 10 80's Metal Guitarists once.
The list turned out like this.

1. Van Halen
2. Steve Vai
3. Yngwie Malmsteen
4. Joe Satriani
5. Eric Johnson
6. Paul Gilbert
7. Marty Friedman and Jason Becker
8. Greg Howe
9. George Lynch
10. Randy Rhoads

That to me is a pretty good list even though I don't think Eric Johnson should be there at all simply because he doesn't play Metal but all the other names is pretty okay but I might have changed the order they appeared in but Van Halen as number 1 is fair but Rhoads should have been higher on the list.
That magazine also had the great U.K guitarist Dave Kilminster playing a few licks in the style of each of those guitar players in one little song.
It sounded very cool and I have both the tab and sound file for it in my computer if anyone wants to hear how to copy 10 top guitar players over one short little groove.

[loveguitar]

Sorry wrong spelling. Should be Rolling Stone (without the "s" behind "Stone") for the thread title. With the "s" is a band's name.

[EricV]

Anubis, I agree.

Some thoughts:

1. How do you judge who belongs into such a list ?
Speed ? Technique ? Versatility ? Or rather record sales ?

2. How can you compare all those players ?
This also has to do with question 1. I mean... how can Yngwie and BB King even be in the same list ( Have seen both mentioned in the same lists ) ?
Yngwie sure has a better technique and is faster, but BB is a blues-player, plays a completely different style of music. I couldn´t compare those.

3. How do you know how good a player is ?
Because he might not even show his full potential on the records he has played on. If you´d judge Steve lukather ( as an example ) or Michael Landau by the stuff they have played on Richard Marx´s records, you might be able to tell that they´re very melodic players with a great tone. But you might not have a clue that they both have really good technique and are quite versatile. They didn´t play jazzy stuff on those albums, simply because it didn´t fit, so you wouldn´t know how good they really are.

4. A lot of the results of those kinda polls in magazines are certainly based on popularity, which doesn´t always have to do anything with how good a player is, but how many records his band has sold.
What I mean is, if you go by chops, Buckethead and Shawn Lane should be on top of the list, above players like... I dunno, Slash. But many of the lists I have seen didn´t even mention BH and SL, but had Slash among the Top 20 names

What people COULD make a list of would be "most popular players" or "most influential players". I don´t see a purpose in "Best guitarist" polls, simply because I have no clue how you´d judge that.
It´s kinda silly. But I guess there´ll always be lists like that
Eric

[snufeldin]

Anubis,

I want to know how to copy 10 top guitar players over one short little groove.

[loveguitar]

I agree that it might sound inappropriate to have "top 100 guitarist" when different guitarist of different styles are in there. But maybe I am just curious when there's such a list :)

Even technical skill is so hard to measure already, by who play faster? or by who form the most incredible chords? or by who play most melodic and so. Not to say creativity and musicianship, which is even more hard, if not impossible, to measure.

[Anubis]

I agree with what you said there Eric.
Lists of top guitar players is pretty much all based on popularity even though some of the guys in those lists are very good.
I have always hated lists of top this or top that.
Music is an art and not the Olympics.
Even if we would try to come up with a fair list based on certain things it is almost impossible.
Best vibrato perhaps?
B.B Kings or Yngwies?
There's no answer to a question like that.
I guess the only list we can make is a list of the fastest guitar player but what's the point?
If someone could play 16th notes at 300 bpm well congratulations but I prefer not to hear it.
I remember Guinness Book Of Records did have a guy that was the fastest in the world.
Some guy from Norway I think but things like that is more of entertainment value then musical.
I also believe that top lists is a maturity thing.
When I was a teenager I always made lists of top guitar players and best looking girls.
Today when I see a list of top guitar players I just shake my head.
What's the point?


snufeldin check your private messages ;)

[Anubis]

Here's the list people.
Joan Jett and Johnny Ramone are better guitar players then Steve Morse because Steve Morse isn't even on the list :)

The 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time

1 Jimi Hendrix
2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band
3 B.B. King
4 Eric Clapton
5 Robert Johnson
6 Chuck Berry
7 Stevie Ray Vaughan
8 Ry Cooder
9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin
10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones
11Kirk Hammett of Metallica
12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana
13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead
14 Jeff Beck
15 Carlos Santana
16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones
17 Jack White of the White Stripes
18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers
19 Richard Thompson
20 James Burton
21 George Harrison
22 Mike Bloomfield
23 Warren Haynes
24 The Edge of U2
25 Freddy King
26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave
27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits
28 Stephen Stills
29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges
30 Buddy Guy
31 **** Dale
32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service
33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth
35 John Fahey
36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's
37 Bod Diddley
38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac
39 Brian May of Qeen
40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival
41 Clarence White of the Byrds
42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson
43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic
44 Scotty Moore
45 Frank Zappa
46 Les Paul
47 T-Bone Walker
48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith
49 John McLaughlin
50 Pete Townshend
51 Paul Kossoff of Free
52 Lou Reed
53 Mickey Baker
54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane
55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple
56 Tom Verlaine of Television
57 Roy Buchanan
58 ****ey Betts
59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead
61 Ike Turner
62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band
63 Danny Gatton
64 Mick Ronson
65 Hubert Sumlin
66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour
67 Link Wray
68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape
69 Steve Howe of Yes
70 Eddie Van Halen
71 Lightnin' Hopkins
72 Joni Mitchell
73 Trey Anastasio of Phish
74 Johnny Winter
75 Adam Jones of Tool
76 Ali Farka Toure
77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat
78 Robbie Robertson of the Band
79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps (1997)
80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids
81 Derek Trucks
82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd
83 Neil Young
84 Eddie Cochran
85 Randy Rhoads
86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath
87 Joan Jett
88 Dave Davies of the Kinks
89 D. Boon of the Minutemen
90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper
91 Robby Krieger of the Doors
92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5
94 Bert Jansch
95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine
96 Angus Young of AC/DC
97 Robert Randolph
98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer
99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag
100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden

[loveguitar]

Thanks for posting the list, Anubis.

[EricV]

Eddie Van Halen is No. 70... go figure
Eric

[Koala]

LOL David Gilmour 82.....but i am glad to see Ali Farka in there.

[szulc]

Maybe our profanity software is taking the nickname for "Richard" a little to seriously.

[EricV]

Yeah... I noticed... Dick Dale and Dickey Betts LOL

[Wyll_Watts]

I was really surprised to see Clarence White on that list.. but they did mention him as a player in The Byrds... I wonder if they even realize he was a revolutionary player in acoustic bluegrass guitar.. he basically started the whole really technical lead playing aspect of flatpick, country/bluegrass acoustic music... well, I guess this is a rock magazine and I shouldn't expect too much.. lol.. at least he was mentioned.. I was also surprised to see Robert Johnson so high on the list.. probably he is there because he influenced Clapton and others so much and has the whole selling your soul to the devil at the crossroads thing going on... did they say how they composed this list? by popularity in some sort of poll? or did a bunch of stuffy music critics just sit around and spit out names? well.. I guess it could at least inspire some people to check out some guitarists and bands they may have never heard of...

Wyll

[Danster]

Originally posted by Wyll_Watts
I was also surprised to see Robert Johnson so high on the list.. probably he is there because he influenced Clapton and others so much and has the whole selling your soul to the devil at the crossroads thing going on... I've started getting into Blues in just the last couple of years. It didn't take long before I realized that Robert Johnson seemed to be the Blues God to everyone. I read some stuff about him, including the crossroads story. I finally got some of his music. Now I don't mean no disrespect, but I think the devil got the best of that deal. :eek: ;) I suppose he gets so much credit because he is one of the originators of the genre, and so many people copied him. So he does deserve a lot of credit there. I imagine if RJ saw EVH play, he'd be wondering how EVH had so many souls to give in trade for that ability.:)

[DDTonFire]

Strange...Seems they must have missed Satriani, Malmesteen, Vai, Petrucci, Gilbert, DiMeola, Lukather, Eric Johnson, Slash and so many others. And EVH, Gilmour, and Rhoads are past #69. And half the guys on here i've never heard of or about. Crazy world we live in. Its all backwards.

[LarryJ]

I know there are differing opinions on guitarists, and 'technical skill' is not always reprisented, but putting EVH at #70 is an outrage. I mean, the white stripes guitarist is #17??? His 1 album and one hit song merit that he's placed way above a guy who is universally accepted as being one of the world greats, and pretty much single handidly influenced an entire generation and changed the way guitar is played? They can put some fairly unknown players high on the list, but they miss out on tons of guys who should be there, and place others at ridiculously low positions. I'm willing to bet guitarists didn't compile this list. Oh well, I guess its what us metalheads should have come to expect :D

[Oceano]

What the hell does Roling Stone know about guitar playing anyway.

[JpEvhAf]

I could careless about anything Rolling stone says or for that matter most mainsteam magazines. They are just that, mainstream, like Guitar World (has had kid rock, disturbed etc... on the cover but never guys like John Petrucci etc.:confused: )

Rolling Stone is just trying to appeal to the mainstream so they can sell more magazines.


Some one probably already made this point but i didn't see it....i thought this page was the only page of the thread...oops;)

[007]

On the female side, amazingly Bonnie Raitt isn´t on the list. In my opinion, she´s the only woman who can be considered "A real Guitarist".

[EricV]

These guys keep cracking me up, and this commentary on the Rolling Stones-list is priceless... ( Be aware... some naughty words in there :) )
http://www.metal-sludge.com/RollingStoneGuitaristList.htm

Eric

[el guitaro]

wow thats the funniest thing i have read in a good while!

[Anubis]

007 wrote: On the female side, amazingly Bonnie Raitt isn´t on the list. In my opinion, she´s the only woman who can be considered "A real Guitarist".
Well there's some others to.
Jennifer Batten for example but there are many others.
We have acoustic players such as Rory Block that is very good.

About the top 100 list I don't think people should take it seriously.
The Rolling Stone list is just a subjective opinion by someone else and there are tons of guitar magazines who makes lists like that each year.
If we would make a top 100 list on this forum it is just as important as the one Rolling Stone did.
I would actually say our list is better because we knows more about guitar playing then the people at Rolling Stone. I mean Eddie van Halen isn't in top 10??
That's a joke and everyone knows it except for Rolling Stone.
I have seen forums all over the world where people have been upset by that top 100 list.
Maybe someone should make a new one.
Maybe different forums can put together a new list or someone make a site where people can vote.

[JWB81]

As someone has previously mentioned, every guitar or music magazine has a top whatever, and most of them just happen to be different. I think it is mainly based on their actual readers.

Most people that read Rolling Stone aren't really looking for guitar technique in there, and are possibly going by popularity as well as skill. However, I saw a few guitarists in that top 100 that I think have no skill at all.

However, Guitar World, and other guitar magazines are based towards readers that are looking to improve their technical skill of guitar playing, therefore they base their decisions on what would make a skilled guitar player. Probably by the players that play the hardest licks that sound good.

Do these people really poll their readers, or anyone else in that matter, the actual people who count, who their favorite guitarist is? I haven't gotten a questionare asking me for my opinion on who I like, but honestly I'm not looking because I know who I like, and thats all that counts.

Anyways, thats just my opinion on top 10's and 100's.

By the way, I really disagree with who was #1 on their list because I'm not a huge fan of Jimmy Hendrix. Randy Rhoads however should have been a lot higher on the list.

[gh0sty]

11Kirk Hammett of Metallica
12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!?!?!

These guys beat out John Petrucci? Yngwie? Steve Morse? Paul Gilbert? Eddie Van Halen?!? Wtf... I didn't even see 4/5 of those that I listed on there...

I can kind of understand why Hendrix is #1 on the list, just because he "revolutionized" guitar... Bah.... many others still beat him down though (Satriani, Vai, Petrucci, etc).

My point. Rolling Stone mag. sucks.

gh0st

[Spin 2513]

Yeah,right my girl friend even thought Joni Mitchell being placed before Randy Rhoades was complete science fiction.

And what ,Buddy Guy is better than Johnny Winter?THat Guy would be the first to admit,HE doesn't even know what key hes in.LOL

[Spin 2513]

Also ,never in my life did i even regard bob blyan ,as a "Guitarist Guitar Player" Was this a Folkie Music Poll?Oh, NOW i get it .

[LarryJ]

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This topic has been done to death. For a GOOD poll check out www.guitar.com's top 100 guitarist. They did a really excellent job on it, I agree with every one +/- maybe 5 or so spaces. They also explained why he gets the spot, and bash them as well. They even made Kurt "I play like I have broken fingers" Cobain seem like he belonged, and it was completly justified. They also explain the importance of technique, and influence and everything clearly in the beggining paragraph. For instance, I dont listen to jazz, but they made it quite clear when saying that jazz players would far and away dominate the list of top 100 if it was based on skill and technique, and all around knowledge. If it were rated on this alone, guys like VH and Petrucci and Gilbert and all them would be bottom half, and I tend to believe it.

To the person who put down buddy guy as not knowing what key he was in, as many of us know, Eddie Van Halen also has no idea what key he is playing in. I'm not sure he even knows his scales, perhaps now, but when he started he didn't know any theory or any knowledge, he just played, so thats no excuse. I have read many interviews in which he said this, and even though he took piano lessons as ac child, he just mimicked what he heard and saw, he had no idea what he was really doing. On the other hand, some jazzer can probably play 50 different scales over the strangest chord progression possible and make it fit. Thankfully however they came up with a very (in my eyes) workable system to rate these guys, and it incorporates everyone from every style.

It even came with the slogan "And Jack White isn't even on our list!"


That right there shows its legit :D

[LarryJ]

http://www.guitar.com/cda/ColumnCorner/article_display.aspx?sPath=8100000C203C00000001000 0791F00000000

I like how hetfield is pretty high, and hammit is way at the bottom of the list, cause hetfield is the one who wrote all of their riffs/songs. That shows some thought on their part.

theres the actual link. Note to self: change icon...

[Spin 2513]

Originally posted by LarryJ
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To the person who put down buddy guy as not knowing what key he was in, as many of us know, Eddie Van Halen also has no idea what key he is playing in. I'm not sure he even knows his scales, perhaps now, but when he started he didn't know any theory or any knowledge, he just played, so thats no excuse. I have read many interviews in which he said this, and even though he took piano lessons as ac child, he just mimicked what he heard and saw, he had no idea what he was really doing. On the other hand, some jazzer can probably play 50 different scales over the strangest chord progression possible and make it fit. Thankfully however they came up with a very (in my eyes) workable system to rate these guys, and it incorporates everyone from every style.

It even came with the slogan "And Jack White isn't even on our list!"


That right there shows its legit :D


Buddy Guy, is no Eddie Van Halen ,trust me on that one.
Okay,Buddy Guy SOUNDS like he doesn't know what key he's in .
He was recognised as a "Chicago Blues " player,but he became well known from BACKING up the greats ,that's how he got his name, kind of like BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN.Buddy Guy was originally a RHYTHEM Guitarist,who became inspired by Hendrix to play lead .
Have you ever listened to Buddy guy ,he's a good songwriter ,but his ear is sh#t,when it comes to lead guitar ,over bending notes into key, from the wrong pentatonic box,bending strings like 4 whole steps ,boy that Acid must have been GOOD.
I've been to his club in Chicago and have an appreciation for Chicago Blues ,but I've been to Texas ,too,Bro.Johnny Winter can do no wrong.Johnnys Rhythem guitarist ,Rick Derringer ,could play circles around Buddy Guy,dude.


"you have to know the rules before you can break them" EVH

[LarryJ]

Spin:

I dont see your point. Just about every guitarist starts out as a RHYTHM guitarist. Randy Rhoads didn't pick up a guitar and start playing tapping filled aeolian mode solos, he started playing 'Chattanooga Choo-Choo', and later, Leslie West. It is my personal opinion anyways that Van Halen was a much better rhythm guitarist than he was a lead player to begin with. When he first came on the scene, nobody could figure out what he was doing. It seemed like he was changing modes every few notes, but in reality, he just didn't know his scales and modes, and played whatever he wanted to, probably as fast as he could, and it came out sounding pretty good and was hugely inventive for the time. Buddy Guy was also before EVH's time. It's like comparing Chuck Berry to John Petrucci. Of course there will be no comparison in playing levels, music also changed alot to reflect that. The blues wasn't always about sounding slick and smooth like SRV made it, he's just one player who took it there, alot of early blues sounded pretty bad, but it was about tension and resolve and other aspects than just who could stay perfectly in key and play the most melodic and fastest licks. I dont want to bring race into the issue, but alot of the blues players were poor black guys who probably didn't have good jobs and were victims of the times. They didn't have fancy guitars, and they probably taught themselves one-hundred percent how to play, let alone theory... yet even with going to music college and having a few thousands of dollars worth of gear, I'll never have anywhere near the amount of respect these guys got, even if I can play 10x faster and cleaner, and perhaps even, tastefully. You have to realise players are also based on influence. I'm going to say John Petrucci, or Steve Morse, or Paul Gilbert are far better players than Van Halen, or SRV, because they can play whatever they played, and then some...but you can't deny VH deserves a spot for changing the scene, and doing his own thing, and being a huge innovator, just the same as SRV, and they deserve to be higher than the aforementioned players as well.

Personally I can't stand the blues, and no I dont listen to, or like Buddy Guy. I listen to prog rock, and hard rock/metal, and now fusion, but claiming a musician isn't a musician because they dont know theory, or can't play fast is nonsense. The very scales themselves lend to the different sounds you hear. Jimi Hedrix (another player I personally dont care for) is quoted many times as saying he hardly knew any theory, and that was his weak point as a player. Jimmy Paige was a sloppy player and over bent notes all the time, and he also slurred notes together and missed notes all the time in his playing, but most people consider him (and jimi) in the top 3 of all time, regardless of genre. Kurt Cobains being on that list is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. I hate the guy, and I hate his band and music, in part because he helped to kill the music I like. However, it's obvious he influenced a whole generation of players, just the same as EVH did a decade before him. Jack White meanwhile, is just an average player at best, who brings nothing new to the table, and he doesn't deserve any spot up there, let alone #17.

I dont really know where to go with this anymore, and I'm tired of going on about it, because I'm sure you probably realise most of this already, it's been debated time and again in countless circles and should be pretty obvious. I dont want you to take any of this personally, because its not meant as any type of attack, even though some of it may come off as sounding harsh. I've only got 30 something posts here, so I personally dont have much say on this board, and certainly do not intend to insult anyone. Hopefully you understand and take it the right way...if not, feel free to private message me and flame away.

[The Bash]

That's what makes the Guitar such a great instrument:
There's No One Way to Play the Thing.

[Spin 2513]

Facts are facts ,Muddy waters rules ,Buddy Guy doesn't.
Mick Box of Uriah Heep sucked on Guitar , when they broke up,they joined Ozzy and Rhoades to form the Ozzy Osbourne band .Mick Box was no Randy Rhoades.Guitarists learn alot from keyboard. Don Airey was the Uriah Heep keyboardist.He used alot of Diminised 7th ideas.Mick box played pentatonic B.S. and had no origionallity.
I can't stand when people try to be diplomatic and ignore the difference between good and bad.
Mabey your just not good .

[flathead]

IMO anyone who influenced SRV (i.e. Buddy Guy) was a mofo

[Danster]

Originally posted by Spin 2513
Facts are facts ,Muddy waters rules ,Buddy Guy doesn't.
Alrighty, I'll make a note of that "fact".;)

[Wyll_Watts]

who cares if anyone thinks such and such guitarist is good or sucks.. if you like it listen to it, if you don't, don't listen to it.. no big deal..

arguments like this is why I hate ranking lists and the best of the best and all that crap.. they always spawn a bunch of cock wagging...

I don't care if a guitarist uses three notes in a solo, let alone a pentatonic box, if it sounds good to me.. if other people don't like.. oh well.. I listen for my enjoyment not others...

so go practice or something..

Rantingly Yours,
Wyll

[Anubis]

Some people take life, guitar playing and stupid top 100 lists way to serious.
Saying this rules, that sucks etc.. is so immature.
I have done it to once.
People listen. Music and guitar is supposed to be fun. Don't let Rolling Stones stupid list get in the way for that.
Personally I hate lists. When I was 12 years old me and my friends did lists to.
Malmsteen, Van Halen and Randy Rhoads was always on top of my list.
Then when I got older I realized how stupid lists are at least when it comes to best of this or best of that.
I can understand why people wants them but I just don't give a **** about them.
Music to me is art and therefore about different tastes.
Just in the same way as no one can say red is more beautiful then blue and pizza tastes better then burgers it's the same with music and guitar playing. It's all about different tastes.
I'm sure it is possible to measure certain things in a guitar player like best vibrato, best string bending technique etc.. but I just don't see the point. If we started to do a list of all those things the list of top 100 guitar players would only consist of guys from Nashville most of us never have heard of :)

Saying this rules, that sucks etc.. is so immature.
I have done it to once.

So my point is. Try to leave that Crossroad duel contest thinking behind and enjoy music and each and every musician for what they are and what they have to say.
We are all unique and everyone has something to say musically.
Music is a reflection of your personality. If guitar players gets to wrapped up in the contest thing they miss a lot of all the beautiful sides of music.
When I was 14 I couldn't understand the beauty of a well played simple melody or the beauty when someone just hit one note and hanged on it for a while.
I still like to listen to Racer X though


Regarding Buddy Guy. I think he is great. He has influenced Stevie Ray Vaughan and other great guitarists.
I saw Buddy Guy live many years ago here in Sweden and that was one of the best concerts I have seen.
When I saw that concert I was a total guitar freak (I still am of course) but what really caught my ears was his singing.
I remember he came on stage and started to sing "You've damn right I've got the blues"
Holy **** what a voice he had. That reminded me it was a lot more to music then just playing guitar.
No matter how good I will be on guitar there's no way I can touch people with my playing as much as someone does with that voice.
It's okay not to like Buddy Guy though. We all have different tastes thank God.

[Spin 2513]

Yeah,right.Go Write ,or record something, is more like it.
well no more argument .a top 100 list is ,B.S. anyway.Way too vauge.
It reminds me of the MTV music awards in 1991 when ,JethroTull won best metal album over Metallica
Black album,based on a billboard music chart.Then ,right after that is comes out the "POLL" was not based on actual record and cd sales tallyed up with UPC codes at the check out counter.But,what some people who read magizines think about the pictures of the people they see in those same magazines.
When CDs came out and computers were implemented,all these things have changed .What used to be underground ,and just in Europe,is now on the Radio, and T.v. Popularity is based on actual CD sales not some rock magizines PRO-MO articals.
That is the reason Pantera's last album Redefining the Steel was at #2 between Britany Spears and Christina Agularia.
Which is not a bad place to be .Most guys would want to get between two hot blondes,heh,heh.

Okay...bye

[Spin 2513]

I think someone posted at the same time as me.

I agree with that Blues is a different medium ,and guitar is presented differently.Johnny Winter doing"Mississippi blues"or a Delta Blues is amazing ."Cause Johnny's from near there,and the whole feeling brings you there.
Now Yngwie can play blues ,but it's not the same thing .It's a tool for everything else, for a self tought guy, like that.
Black Star is his way of playing blues in his style.

I've been hearing this whole thing scince high school,how Niel Young can bend notes and it's a feeling thing .You could say the same thing of Zappa.Some one who takes a free form approach and dosen't care how sloppy they are ,they just want to create something right there.It's great.

But to me and most guitarist,the magic happens in the studio when you can produce an extra element on top of what is already there.When that has been achieved ,it's hard to accept anything less.

Like Jimi Hendrix "All Allong The Watch Tower" Here's a guy Les Paul taught his studio tricks to,and he used them to take a Folk song,into another Dimension.Dynamics are added ,color appears.
Things take a new shape,it has a good effect on the imagination.
To say these standards don't exist is absurd.It's like saying CRAYOLA never came out with the 64 pack.

I thought people here were into modern guitar and it's possibilities.Johnny Winter already proved you can drink a bottle of whiskey and still sound good, and not play sloppy.
I'm no Tony Mac Alpine ,but guitar to me is about figuring out how to make music with the techniques you've studied.

[BrownSouind]

i almost cryed when i saw that jack white beat john frusciante

[BrownSouind]

sorry, jophn frusciante is one oif my favorite guitarists
he wrote the songs to Mothersmilk when her was 17 and Blood Sugar Sex Magic when he was 19
and when i listen to those albums (not SO much mothersmilk) i just flick the distortion off and start funking