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szulc
08-05-2002, 04:08 AM
The two note per string diatonic form has its usefulness.
The following Example intended to be played ad infinitum and moved diatonically through the scale ( in this case, Am Harmonic).

EricV
08-05-2002, 11:45 AM
Hi there,

that really is a nice exercise.
But... wouldn´t an upstroke on the B-string and a downstroke on the G-string ( 2nd & third note of the second sixtuplet grouping ) be "outside picking" ?
Eric

szulc
08-05-2002, 11:53 AM
thanks I corrected it

Guni
08-05-2002, 02:53 PM
Hi szulc,

That's a nice line. I am just not sure how you would use it and over what chord. You mention A harmonic minor right? But where are you getting all those notes from? Also the c# notes on the strong beats clearly implies a major or dominant sound (in relation to A).

Can ya pls elaborate?

Thanks,

Guni

szulc
08-05-2002, 06:38 PM
It was late last night when I sent this in.....
I'll send in the corrected version tonight.
the C#'s should have been D's (15th fret) and the G should have been G#'s(13th fret).

Guni
08-05-2002, 06:39 PM
ok thanks

Guni

szulc
08-05-2002, 08:26 PM
I am glad some one was paying enough attention to notice my mistakes!

Thanks Guni and Eric

szulc
08-05-2002, 09:20 PM
Here is what I really wanted to post.

szulc
08-05-2002, 09:27 PM
Its Inverse.

szulc
08-05-2002, 09:34 PM
Diatonic Movement

EricV
08-05-2002, 09:57 PM
Hey,
I dunno whether you intended them to be, but those are really cool picking exercises too ! Very nice, I like that harmonic minor sound...
Eric

Guni
08-05-2002, 10:35 PM
yep cool - very nice lines and they force you to break out of the usual patterns ...

Guni

szulc
08-06-2002, 12:14 AM
I was intending these to be an example of the kind of lines that lend themselves to 2 note per string patterns. The side effect is, that because they are fingered differently, the picking is not common. Some are difficult to play fast. But I believe these are less difficult than to play the same musical phrase with three note per string scales.

Interestingly enough the thing that got me thinking this way was trying to learn the nutcracker suite. The little phrases that are a hammer and then a pull to the same note, I couldn't find any other way of executing these phrases than to use two note per string patterns. On a Violin you have such a short neck it is easy to do on 1 string, on a guitar you need at least two.

I am Glad you guys liked it.

The cool thing is once you have the picking pattern burned in this can really fly!

EricV
08-06-2002, 11:21 PM
Funny you mention the classical influence... it reminded me a bit of the Moto Perpetuo by Paganini, which was a violin-piece too...

Very nice.
Thanks
Eric

szulc
08-07-2002, 02:54 PM
Interesting. Did you ever notice Paganini's proclivity for Cycle IV?
The '5th Caprice' uses this a great deal as well as 'Moto Perpetuo'
and of coarse 'Caprice 24 and its Variations'.
i IV VII III VI iio V

EricV
08-07-2002, 04:23 PM
Wow, never looked into it... you´re right.
I still do have the sheet music for the 24 Caprices... gotta check that out one day...
Eric