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Santuzzo
03-02-2004, 02:00 PM
Hi there.

Here is a question I originally posted on another website-forum.
I'd also like to get some answers and opinions from you guys because this topic has been bothering me quite a deal .... so here we go :

I'm having a big problem, which is :
I'm left handed but I've been playing right handed for many years. Like 10 years ago I was big time into shred and I practiced very hard on my picking, but somehow I couldn't get my right hand up to some reasonable speed. Then when I got a bit older I got into Jazz and kinda forgot about the metal-virtuoso thing.
Just lately I listened to some of my old CDs and watched some of my old Guitar-instructional video tapes of some great shredders, and that sort of brought my desire to become a fast picker back to live.
So I started out practicing on single strings (exercises focusing on the raw speed of right hand alternate picking). But I couldn't get any faster than max. 120-140 bpm(playing 16ths on an open string), but when I turned the guitar around, picking with my left hand I could easily get it up to about 200 bpm (again playing 16ths on an open string) (never ever having practiced picking with my left hand before, whereas I spent many, many hours over quite some years on practicing my right hand picking).
Also when I try to speed-pick with my right hand, I have to move my whole elbow, whereas with my lef hand I can do it just moving the wrist, making small, precise movements.

So now I'm considering getting a left-handed guitar and starting over playing left handed. I'm quite sure my left hand would develop very well, the only thing I'm not so sure about is, is whether my right hand will manage to learn to do all the fretting.

Can anybody out there give me some advice, does anybody have experience with this ???
Do you think I should start playing left-handed, or just keep practicing right handed, even though I could pick much faster (at the moment, a t least) with my left hand ?

Another thought I had was : maybe I should keep practicing right handed, but just start very, very slowly (about 60bpm playing 16ths) and then move up one or two bpm per week. This would certainly take a long time until I get fast, but it might work. What would you suggest ???



Actually, in the meantime I already bought a left-handed guitar and started practicing on that thing. Felt weird in the beginning (actually still does) ...
I'm still not quite sure whether I'm doing the right thing here, still kinda in doubt .....

I'd very much appreciate any answers and advice greatly !I'm really kinda desperate here ....

Thanks a lot in advance !!!

Cheers

Lars

CaptainCarma
03-02-2004, 03:02 PM
Hi Lars,

first off all, welcome to this wonderful site.


regarding your problem, I have to say, that itīs mine too.
I am a lefty playing righthanded and have always been confronted with the same problem.

but sorry, I ainīt got a solution to it, I just keep on practising hard and hope to brake the chains some day.


Marc

Thorsten
03-02-2004, 06:05 PM
Hi Lars,

Iīd say just go by your gut feeling!

If youīre a naturaly born lefthanded person you should definitely play lefthanded cause all your nervous system, reflexes and brain are naturaly "programed" to work lefthanded. Any attempt to change this could seriously cause motorial problems.
Of course you say youīve been already playing for ten years righthanded so itīs really hard to change at first but as you noticed for yourself youīve got much more feel control-wise in your lefthand when doing picking stuff.

Iīm lefthanded and I play lefthanded guitars strung up righthanded and never had a problem. I just took a normal righthanded guitar and turned it upside down cause it was the natural thing for me to do.

Also to cheer you up a bit, remember that a lot of great minds were and are lefthanded: Jimi Hendrix, Paul Mc Cartney, Einstein, Napoleon, Homer Simpson...(;) jk)

TK

Moonchild
03-03-2004, 06:46 AM
Hi Lars!

I'm also left-handed and I made the decision to (at least try to) play the guitar right-handed. I've been playing for almost a year now and I have to say that it really is working for me. Of course I've spent a lot of time working on my picking technique (well, actually that is pretty much all I have been working on so far :D), and although I'm not the greatest shredder, I think I've got pretty nice phrasing and I've been making serious improvement speed-wise in the last couple of months. I've been practicing about 4-5 hours a day for some time now, and I don't think that I could switch to a left-handed guitar now.

Of course, that is not an answer to your question. I think what you should do is give right-handed playing a try (which you obviously have done already since you've been playing for 10 years :D) and then just go with the gut-feel. If you don't feel comfortable playing the guitar right-handed after 10 years, chances are you never will...

Well, that's just my two cents.

primal65
03-03-2004, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by Thorsten

I?m lefthanded and I play lefthanded guitars strung up righthanded and never had a problem. I just took a normal righthanded guitar and turned it upside down cause it was the natural thing for me to do.


You play with strings upside down, Thorsten?

wild_child
03-03-2004, 11:35 PM
Also to cheer you up a bit, remember that a lot of great minds were and are lefthanded: Jimi Hendrix, Paul Mc Cartney, Einstein, Napoleon, Homer Simpson..

its been scientifically proven that left handed people use more of their brain than right handed people, its also been proven that musicians have a higher IQ than non musicians, if youre both then you should be pretty clever :D

i'm ambidextrous (both-handed) either that or i'm just indecisive :rolleyes:
i write with my left hand though, which most people consider to define which is your first hand, however when i used to play tennis (i was national standard - oh yeah :D ) i used my right hand, and i also play guitar right handed.. i guess my right hand is my more dominant one but its been mostly conscious choices because most products are made for right handed people. i'm a lefty at heart though :D or "da schlaght es links" as that guy from rammstein says

Bizarro
03-04-2004, 01:44 AM
its been scientifically proven that left handed people use more of their brain than right handed people, its also been proven that musicians have a higher IQ than non musicians, if youre both then you should be pretty clever

LOL! :)

Thorsten
03-04-2004, 05:39 AM
Originally posted by primal65
You play with strings upside down, Thorsten?

Yes, I do!

Check this out:
Shred Talk (http://www.ibreathemusic.com/article/54)

Only other guitarist I could think of who also played that way is legendary blues player Albert King. He also played a Flying V most of the time.

TK

primal65
03-04-2004, 10:30 AM
Heh, that's pretty cool, man.

I'd love to see you play sometimes. It would probably make me go crosseyed as I watched your fingers while you play (which is of course what all us guitar players do lol).

CaptainCarma
03-04-2004, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by Thorsten
Only other guitarist I could think of who also played that way is legendary blues player Albert King. He also played a Flying V most of the time.

TK

Eric Gales plays this way, too.

Santuzzo
03-04-2004, 11:12 AM
Thanks a lot to everybody for your answers !!!

Is there anybody else out there who'd like to give their opinion about my initial thread/question?

I'd appreciate it very much !

Cheers

Lars

Bizarro
03-06-2004, 06:56 AM
I'm sort of ambidextrous but I'm more of a righty so that's what felt best for me. A friend of mine in college was a lefty playing right-handed. He had a very strong fretting hand but his picking wasn't so hot.

Steve Morse is a lefty but plays right. He's not too bad:D

Jimi Hendrix also did the "upside down" string thing from time to time. He was really decent either way. Stevie Ray Vaughan could do it too but that's not as well known.

Eric Gales is really amazing! He was "first in line" after SRV passed on but he didn't hit it big and grunge sort of stole his thunder. Too bad because the kid could wail!

MadLicker
03-12-2004, 12:25 AM
I happen to be left-handed playing right-handed, and while my legato technique is fairly good(sixteenths at 180-200), my picking is quite poor at the moment(16ths at 160 and not as articulate as I'd like it). I'd rather play this way, though. It really feels better than... *cough* The left-handed Way of Doom.

Thorsten
03-12-2004, 06:21 AM
Originally posted by MadLicker
The left-handed Way of Doom.

LOL:D I love this! Thatīll be a great title for my solo record...:D

The Bash
03-12-2004, 07:54 AM
I don't think which way you play really matters that much and in fact having your better hand doing the fretwork might actually be an advantage since generally your asking it to do more complicated things than the picking hand.
That of course depends on what your playing. If your trying to chug out downpicked 16th notes in your picking hand with slamming down powerchords in your fret hand this might not be the case.
Or if you trying to play like Steve Morse whose picking hand is usually doing some very diffucult stuff, this may not be the case either.
Then again Steve's (IMO) one of the best all round pickers around, and he's left handed playing right handed.

rosco
03-27-2004, 02:11 PM
Nice forum on lefty players. I am a lefty that also plays a righthanded guitar upsidedown :D . This is how I started way back in 1965, it seemed natual to me.
I have over the years attempted to switch the strings around or change to righty but none of these options ever worked. I get some very odd looks when playin, I think i max people's brains out LOL. Anyway this is the way i learned and this is the way I play.
I saw Albert King in New Orleans in 69 at the Warehouse and realized the he too played that way.
Recently I found out that my neighbor played and went to visit him to see if we could get together sometime, he said sure, then i picked up his strat and started to pick a bit,as he needed to leave, he looked at me and said Dude you need to flip the guitar around or get a lefthanded one. Needless to say I haven't heard from him since, LOL.
Here are a couple of pics of my guitars ;)

Santuzzo
04-22-2005, 03:17 PM
As I just found out on Vinnie Moore's website forum,
he is a lefty, too.
And the funny thing is, he is also picking all his really fast stuff from his elbow.

After all, I quit trying to switch over to a lefty-guitar, I'd just would have taken too much time to start all over again, eventhough my left hand is so much faster when picking ....
But anyway, as I mentioned in an earlier post, I changed my right hand picking from wrist to elbow picking, and this works very well for me .... slowly but gradually I am gaining speed ....
So, reading about Vinnie Moore being a lefty kind of makes me feel there IS hope .... ;) :p

I thought I'd just add this information as everybody knows that Michael Angelo or Steve Morse are leftys, but I have never before seen anybody mention Vinnie Moore being a lefty, so I guess, not too many people know this ....

Peace,
Lars

DemonSorcerer
04-22-2005, 04:26 PM
Yes, I do!

Check this out:
Shred Talk (http://www.ibreathemusic.com/article/54)

Only other guitarist I could think of who also played that way is legendary blues player Albert King. He also played a Flying V most of the time.

TK

There's also thias great guy that plays beach boys-style music...i can't remember his name...he also plays that way...

David

Thorsten
04-22-2005, 05:50 PM
Thanks for the info guys!

Didnīt know the one about Moore either.

Later
TK

hairballxavier
04-23-2005, 04:56 AM
I think it's more natural to have the hand with the most dexterity on the fretboard. I'm a bit strange though. I'm not right handed or left handed. For instance, I write with my left hand, but I usually swing a hammer with my right hand. But with guitar both hands are important.

Buebo
04-23-2005, 12:46 PM
Lots of lefties here. I'm a lefty who plays lefthanded. A friend of mine is lefthanded but plays right and he's studying classical guitar on a conservatory in Holland so.. I do have a gut feeling that your pure picking speed limit will be reduced playing righthanded as a lefty. But you probably will be able to develop crazy legato chops ;P.


http://www.anythingleft-handed.co.uk/acatalog/natural_superiority_left_hander_book.html#a123
Lefties unite :D

Greets, Buebo.

regulator
03-26-2006, 01:19 PM
hi, i just discovered this excellent forum,

i too play an left hand guitar restrung for a righty, i have always played that way it was just the way i first learnt. i grabbed dads righty acoustic and started playing it lefthand. its good to see there are a few of us out there that play in such a unique way.
Being from australia im always struggling to find decent lefthanded instruments and i am still yet to find something i considered to be my dream guitar.
ive never owned any righthanded guitars but i suppose i could buy any righthanded instrument and play it with some level of comfort.

i have been playing guitar since i was 13 , im 32 now so i have a few years experience in bands and duos.
i am constantly striving to get better at the instrument playing has never been a chore.
i think playing the way i do has its benifits and its problems.
some chord voicings a righty would struggle to do are a breeze for me and vise versa

the same goes for lead playing i find it easy playing fast lead on the low strings and more difficult on the higher ones.

anyway its nice to know there are others out there like me.

thnx for listening :)