Difficult Picking Exercises

[szulc]

Since re-learning to pick with the right hand un-anchored, I have been working on some exercises that are difficult (at least for me!). Since working on the stuff that is difficult is the best way to improve, these are the exercises I have chosen to improve my picking.
The take place mostly on the G and B strings, as usual they are based on mathematical sequences. They are written with Strict AP starting with a down stroke, but shout be practiced startng with an upstroke as well. The string crossing changes from outside to inside if you change the starting stroke. I'll start with the pentatonic based one which is the only one that uses the D string. I consider this a syncronization exercise, because it is difficult to get either of these up to speed until you can solve some basic synchronization problems.

[szulc]

This set is kind of like practicing snare drum rudiments.
These are all written as 16th notes (even though the third one should be a sextuplet) I did this on purpose to make the timing the same through out. The first two are just synch exercises across the G and B string and then only on the G string, simple, but tough to play fast with out slop! The idea here is to execute these slowly until you are playing them perfectly then slowly increase your tempo until the slop occurs, then back off till it is perfect again, then write your Metronome setting in your diary.
Some days will be faster than others, but overall your speed will improve.

[szulc]

This one is a pivot exercise with string crossing. This could be modified to have the pivot on the B string instead ( Same fingering, just reverse stings). Looks pretty simple on paper!
No so easy to execute cleanly. Try this starting with an up stroke too!.

[szulc]

A strange thing I have noticed is picking exercises with fewer (one or two) fingers seem to be harder that the one that use three or more. Here is one that uses all four, in ascending chromatic triplets.

[szulc]

Descending chromatic triplets
A little tougher than the previous one.
My goal here is to get my cross picking (close to) as fast as my single string picking.

[szulc]

This one is fun and a bit easier than the others. The index finger starts every series of chromatic sexuplets with the fingering moving around it, the net effect is descending each motive chromatically. As written it is good for inside picking, start with an up stroke to work on outside picking.

[szulc]

Chromatic septuplets ascending each motive chromatically. As written it is good for inside picking, start with an up stroke to work on outside picking. My emphasis on Chromaticism is to take the brain out of the fingering equation and make it easier to concentrate on the picking.
The rhythm of the septuplet my be difficult for some but play these evenly in time and accent the first note of each group, before long you will have the feel for the septuplet.

[EricV]

Hi James,

awesome, really ! Those exercises are really cool and focus on many of the problem-spots about picking.
Especially the thing about the increased difficulty when having only one or two notes per string ( like i.e. with pentatonic patterns )... that is something that took me a while.
It was tougher for me to play a descending 2NPS-pentatonic scale than it was to play a descending 3NPS-minor scale even at higher tempos.
Very nice
Eric

[szulc]

Any time I start feeling cocky about my playing, all I need to do is un-anchor my left hand, use a Dunlop Jazz III and practice these exercises. In mere seconds I feel like a beginner with my fingers in concrete. I really need to get some more 2mm Dunlops (the small ones). Oh by the way I am practicing these on my scalloped neck Kramer, which forces my left hand to relax and use less muscle (The Jamey Andreas thing). I am also using that guitar to work on my slow vibratto, that really works out the ends of your fingers and your forearm. I played the above examples until my right hand went numb! ( Carpal Nerve).

Thanks Eric for your Kind comments since you are the king of picking exercises on this site, I feel humbled.

[The Bash]

Good Work James!
Glad I ain't the only one feels like a beginner when it comes to the floating thing. I haven't yet tried it with muting (that I think will be a challange unto itself).
Anyway here's a little ditty dealing with angles. Not only is picking only one note per string a tad difficult, I find (at least for me) that the left hand moving at an angle is also kind of unnatural. So I find this one a good warm up for the mind as well as both hands.
You can of course vary it by rearranging the order of fingers.
I look at this as 1234 pattern so you could try 1324 or anyother combination at make tons of variations.
I use this mostly as a warmup cause I admit things that don't sound musical tend to bore me after a while and this one don't sound any to musical. But who knows if you can actually make music out of Go For It.

BTW: These should be practiced Down/Up as well as with a Up/Down.

[EricV]

Hey there...

ery neat exercises. Bash, the one you posted reminds me of both the "Tumeni Notes"-thing ( after all, Steve often uses the "1 Note per string alternate picking" ) and Steve Vai´s angular exercises
Eric

[szulc]

I was resisting the temptation to post these earlier today but since Bash has opened up this can of worms......
By the way I play the one Bash posted as well...
These are meant to be played in position.
Use AP starting with an up stroke as well as down stroke.

[szulc]

Here is the other one.
I found several different types of picks today and have been trying these with all of them, the clear winners in order are the TECH Pick (aluminium with holes at the top), then the Small Dunlop Purple tolex Jazz Pick, An ancient Ivory Pick I got form my grandfather 25 years ago. I think the Aluminium pick wins because it wears away as you pick and thus has the feeling of being 'softer', even though it is completely inflexable.

[The Bash]

Ouch!
Ok I'mma gonna go check these out so ya might not here back from me for another 25 yrs or so.

Sure those weren't snakes in that can :)

[szulc]

More madness.....
This time with quintuplets ( think 6 -1 or 4 +1 or just play evenly with the first not of each group accented.)

[jdf75]

JB,
Those things wore me out! Keep 'em coming..By the way, you might remember me..jdf75! Good job!

[Bongo Boy]

Originally posted by szulc
Any time I start feeling cocky about my playing, all I need to do is un-anchor my left hand, use a Dunlop Jazz III...

Sounds like you're suggesting this isn't the easiest pick to use--it's the one I've been using exclusively 'cause I just love the feel of these on the strings.

Should I maybe be learning with an 'easier' pick? They DO seem just a tad tiny.

[EricV]

Bongo,

if you wanna try a different one, try if you can hunt down some of the jazz III XL by dunlop... those are bigger sized jazz IIIs.
For a while, I used those exclusively.
They´re kinda hard to find cuz they haven´t been around for a long time, but I think they´re great and perfect for everyone who likes Jazz III picks but doesn´t like their size
Eric

[szulc]

Welcome Josh!
I am glad you are joining in this forum.
Those years I spent coming up with guitar lessons for you, are paying off. You need to write some articles here.
Show us some of your ideas.

[szulc]

Bongo,
For me these are more difficult to use, I lke the small purple tolex ones better but the aluminium TECH pick is the best for me, it does get your fingers dirty with aluminium dust though!

[Guni]

Whoa :-) Just worked my way through the exercises.
They are great!!! Thanks James

I haven't had a lot of time for practicing lately so these execises come in handy for getting in shape.

Guni

[szulc]

I want to make clear that these exercises are meant to be played in position NO CHEATING index covers 5th fret middle covers 6th fret etc. You could miss the whole point on some of these if you don't play in position. I will assume most of you got this, but just in case...

[Guni]

Yes, Sir :D

Guni

[Mesa-Maniacal]

Hey szulc,
great exercises! I am off to the Kingdom of Shred on a fast horse..............aww who am I kidding! my horse broke it's leg and I have a long way to walk!

[Bizarro]

I was re-reading the picking article by James and thought of an exercise which might compliment the examples. I put it into powertab.

This exercise uses a simple left hand shape (E arpeggio) and is targeted at the picking hand. It starts out with one note per string, then goes to two, three, and four. You could expand it as far as you want. You could also add the low E string. Also try starting it with an upstroke instead of a downstroke to mix things up.

This is fairly easy at 120 bpm. But as I crank up the bpm, it really shows me where I need to focus my practice! ;)

[Bizarro]

One more neat thing to try.... once you play through this a couple of times, try harmonizing with it! For example, play a G#m arpeggio shape along with the E and you'll be harmonizing in diatonic thirds!

G#m shape:
e---7---
B---9---
G---8---
D---9---
A---11-
E-------

or your ear might like this better:
e---7---
B---9---
G---9---
D---9---
A---11-
E-------

Am I a nerd or what? I came across this on accident because I was bored playing along with the powertab file.

[Bizarro]

Oh yeah... if you've been playing guitar for as long as you can remember, then a bpm of >180 should be a good starting point.

This example is with 8th notes, so it doesn't really get fun until 260 or so. I better change it to 16th notes for more headroom (powertab maxes out at 300 bpm...)

[szulc]

This one looks easy, try to do it fast!
I was blown away by how difficult this really was.
Maybe it is just me and it will be easy for all the rest of you.
I felt like I was starting over again!
I think that the alternation of inside and outside picking is what makes this difficult for me.

[Bizarro]

yep, that's a real doozy.

The first one is easier for me because I worked on the Master of Puppets riff for a long time.

The second one, while very similar, will take some mental and physical work to get going fast.

If you use economy picking on the second example, it's not so bad. (one down stroke, two up strokes) It won't be as clean sounding with economy picking, and it'll be hard to change accents, so I wouldn't recommend e.p.

I used to use economy picking on the Master of Puppets riff, but it ended up too muddy sounding. I tried all downstrokes, but that just hurts, and I always slow down unless there's a drummer present!

:eek:

[Shred Fan]

Yeah that bit of Master of Puppets is a great riff, love playing it.

When Metallica play it James/Kirk apparently play that bit all downstrokes so I tend to play it that way (needs a bit of endurance) but yeah I find it can be a bit difficult to do it with strict alternate picking. I guess we all need to work on Alternate Picking riffs like these.

Like Szulc says, where you work on things that are most difficult, you get the most gain.

[Bizarro]

Shred Fan,

I've seen Metallica live 4 times now, and James does play it with all down strokes. I wasn't able to see Kirk close enough to see how he does it.

It sounds better with all down strokes IMHO. It's just painful to play more than a minute at that speed! I just don't have that endurance anymore (I'm getting old!) ;)

[Shred Fan]

Heheh, so your starting to lose endurance, maybe you should try out some endurance excersises. I have a couple but they are mainly for the left hand, but here's one for the right (picking) hand that may help.

Try playing the MOP riff a bit each day (all downpicked) and once your hand starts to hurt a little push it a bit further, do this for a bit each day and it just might help you with endurance (don't overdo it though as doing it for 3 hours may not be to good for your wrists, so I accept no responsibility for the result of this or any similar excersise).

By pushing it a little (and only a little) further each day over time you should gain more and more endurance , I do some similar simple excersises for the right hand that help with strength/endurance there (if anyone wants to know them let me know and I'll type them up). Just remember not to overdo it.

I doubt your THAT old that you can't work up endurance, if you are (which I seriously doubt) then its time to give alternate picking that riff some practise.

[Bizarro]

That's pretty good, Shred Fan:D You make very good points and I got a chuckle out of it too! :p

You are right, I'm not that old yet! I just haven't made the time to work on my down-picking chops.

[Shred Fan]

Glad I could help Bizarro, looks like it's time to go back to the woodshed and work on the downpicking.

Though lets not forget that downpicking isn't anywhere near as useful/efficient/fast as alternate picking. It does have its place in some riffs though, so it can't hurt (hahah, no pun intended) to work on your downpicking endurance.

[JpEvhAf]

Just looking through this thread again and I felt like putting up some exercises (actually variations from one exercise) I do from "Rock Discipline."

Start slow, then using a metronmoe gradually speed up. Duh! :D

[laggard]

szulc or anyone else who used exercises like these,

did you find in the end that it was worth it to train yourself away from anchoring?

[szulc]

I believe that you can make a good argument for playing both anchored and unanchored depending on when you are doing it.

I believe that playing unanchored helps you break free from the playing with the elbow thing on fast lines, and since that gave me serious nerve injury I needed to find another way.

I also believe that one you have broken free from the elbow at fast tempo thing you can play more accurately by maintaining some form of anchor.

So just like practicing all AP licks and then some sweeps or econmy picking lick, you should do both.

I still can't play as fast unanchored with the wrist as I can anchored with the tense elbow. But I pay dearly for this if I do it for any length of time, so I am choosing not to, and play slower.

Muting is one thing that needs special attention since it is difficult to achieve without some form of anchoring.

In general muting with both hands is the real ticket and is very difficult to incorporate into your playing style.

My benefit of switching to wrist picking is I am now more relaxed when I start to play fast. I have a tendency to reverse the picking angle and play like Jeff Watson/George Benson/Shawn Lane on fast stuff because it seems more natural a position.

The main point of these exercises was to expose the weaknesses in everyones playing by studying that which make AP phrases difficult to execute.

Whether you decide to do them anchored or unanchored is a matter of personal preference. I advocate doing them using both methods.

[laggard]

szulc,

Thanks for responding!

You told me just what I needed to know.

I've been hesitant to put my full effort into developing my ability to pick floating because quite frankly, I am lazy.

I have noticed that alot of others are looking for the same kind of difinitive answers, wanting to know if one way is better or not. It seems that these answers my not exist. Your argument for flexibility makes me look at it in a whole new light though.

Thanks again.

And thanks for the exercises too!

[tom_hogan]

what a great thread nice one

i take it those 1 note per string are swept?


tom

[szulc]

No, everything in this set of exercises is meant to played with strict Alternating Picking.

[szulc]

Since there seems to be a rekindling of interest in this thread I think those of you who haven't already read this should read this article.

http://www.ibreathemusic.com/article/84

[RayenD]

Not sure if it was posted here, but this one is real fun to play:


|-------4-1-------------5-2-------------9-6----------------13-10------------||
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------||
|-----3-----2---------4-----3---------8-----7-----------12-------11---------||
|---2---------3-----3---------4-----7---------8------11-------------12------||
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------||
|-1-------------4-2-------------5-6-------------9-10-------------------13---||

etc.
Use up/down strokes, 1-2-3-4 fingering

[Wicked_Dreams]

Not hard at all, but I, being a beginner, found it, and still find it, very useful.

I just put it in powertab format, I'm sure you can find something much better somewhere on the web,but I just did it for the sake of learning how to use the software, so bare with me :)

PS: Seeing as this is the first time for me to use the program, I didn't know how to set up the beats properly, as you can see in the start of the "Spider" section, can anyone help me out on this?

[Metallico]

In my opinion, if you want to improve your picking tecnique, you can try to learn it from those who made this tecnique a real art!:-)
I think you should take a look to Paul Gilbert videos..I think Intense Rock it the better, then, if you want to see something out of this earth, you should see Shawn lane stuff...he can pick in different way, but always at top levelThose videos had helped me a lot!!

[Asse]

I just started practising your chromatic septuplet lick the other day - awesome exercise. The pattern isn't as hard as the timing! So far I have only reached 70 bpm - at that speed I can repeat it three times, then I start lagging. How fast can you play it - not a single time, but if you should be able to play it over and over? Just to have something to aim for! :D

I've only practised quin- and septuplets for about a week now, and it's very hard to get hold of the "feel". If I set the metronome to say 75 bpm and start playing quintuplets - after a while I've changed to sixtuplets. :( Any suggestions how I could improve?

[szulc]

I haven't played this with a metronome lately but I'll give it a try sometime this week and post the results.

[Asse]

Got a little additon to szulc's pivoting triplet exercise... It's still all AP.

[szulc]

I am coming in around 90 BPM on this one but I am sure If I work on it I can get it much faster.

[davidvanhalen]

check out this exercise, it's easy but it will help you out a lot:)

[davidvanhalen]

hey guys , i got two more picking exercises , the first i came up with, the second i saw it in another website, i think guitar9.com but it was a little different. use alt. picking, enjoy.

[ncode]

Hey guys, i have prepared a nice warmup exercise for both left & right hand which uses triplets on adjacent strings. There's a descending as well as an ascending version on the zip file (exported from GuitarPro4). Do this for 10 minutes and you'll be on your way to victory :D Have fun!

[szulc]

Do you pick this with SAP? and at what BPM?

[YjMShred]

heres some of the exercises i use they help me alothope you enjoy.tell me if yo like them heh

[szulc]

I find it amusing how people are posting picking exercises with no Picking Information.
Powertab has the capablilty to clearly indicate the pickstroke and HO/PO/Slides/Tapping.

[YjMShred]

oh yea im just to lazy i hope ppl can figure it out.....its just clear alt picking and arps....

[forgottenking2]

I approach SAP exercises like the 1NPS pattern (which by the way it's somewhat reminescent of Steve Vai's "angular excercises") the same way I'd approach single chromatic lines. I'd use all finger combinations and stick with the ones are extremely ackward and work them until they're easy and then switch to something else, at this point I can do Steve Morse type of arpegios at about 160 bpm (8th note tripplets no string skips a la Tumeni Notes), if you add skips to those (a la well dressed guitar) my bpm drop at about 130 or maybe 140 in a good day. As far as strictly mechanical stuff since the current speed on this week's pattern (1423 spread onto 4 strings 1 NPS) this morning was about 120 bpm (8th notes) we'll see how I do as I move on.
I must admit I am not as focused on naked technique as I used to, my main concern has been (and it probably has a lot to do with the frustration of being away from the instrument for so long) to train my ears enough to be able to spawn musical ideas "from thin air", it's a tough goal to reach but we'll see how I do.

I just thought I'd share that with you guys.

[ncode]

Do you pick this with SAP? and at what BPM?
bpm is your choice, but since this is a warmup exercise, i dont think it would be a good idea to bash it up too much..:) It's all strict alternate picking, cuz its more difficult that way. If youre into economy/sweep, i dunno, you could try it that way. Be sure to do it if the fingerings mentioned in the files. Hope this helped :) ROCK ON!

[BluesMetal]

I've changed from running scales down then up to mixxing in string skipping and then goin back up to the one skipped to add a lil' flavore to the practice.

e|-------------------------------------------------------7-8-11----|

B|-----------------------------------------7-8-10------------------|

G|------------------------11-12-14----------------8-9-11-----------|

D|--------9-10-13------------------9-10-13-------------------------|

A|----------------9-10-12------------------------------------------|

E|-7-8-11----------------------------------------------------------|

[forgottenking2]

That's a good one. Working scales in intervals is also very helpful (it can be hard too 'cause of the skips) it will not only improve your technique but it'll give you that precious fretboard awareness everyone wants. (why do I have the feeling that I'm sounding like a car salesman?)
Here are some examples off of the A Major key in 5th position (you should be able to do this with any scale in any position).

In 3rds

e------------------------------------------------------------------------
b-----------------------------------------------------------5----7--5--9
g-----------------------------------------------6-----7--6----7---------
D-----------------------------6-----7--6--9--7----9---------------------
A----------5-----7--5--9--7-----9---------------------------------------
E-5--9--7-----9----------------------------------------------------------
etc

In 5ths

e------------------------------------------------------5-----7--9
b--------------------------------------------5-----9------5---7--
g--------------------------------6------7-------6----7-----------
D--------------6-----7-----9-------6------7----------------------
A---7----9--------6-----7-----9----------------------------------
E-5----7----9-----------------------------------------------------
And backwards

You could also try other intervals such as 4ths, 6ths, or even 7ths.

Once you can play a scale in this manner you'll really be able to say you can play it inside out. In addition to that you have the added benefit of training your ear by repeating those intervals over and over.

I hope this helps.

Regards,

[DrFretBoard]

Great thread guys! Here's a little document I wrote for myself a while back. I will be modifying it to improve layout aswell as the images (the bounding box on the tab-samples is a little confusing, you might take it for a string below the low E-string).

[Bizarro]

Jorge, those exercises are very much like the ones in the Hanon book for piano. That book has basically every useful musical exercise known to man! :)

It is monstrous and it doesn't have any tab (it's for piano...), but once you figure out the interval patterns it isn't a big deal.

[szulc]

Have you actually tried all of this?
If yes, How many weeks/months/years did it take you to try everthing?

[forgottenking2]

When I was first starting out I came up with a chart similar to that pdf file. I never got across actually doing it. I think if I had all the time in the world I'd probably get across attempting such a thing but since that's not my case I just practice stuff that I'll use. I've said this before (and this is just my opinion, no flame wars please) I'd rather use something that has at least some musical sense to it. I do pratice my alternate picking with 1NPS 2NPS 3NPS 4NPS 5NPS 6NPS (they don't have to be all different notes, you're training your right hand after all) what I normally do is I take an etude (like the one in C minor from Guitar Workshop by Berklee press) and play it in quarter notes, 8th notes etc doubling, trippling, etc the notes every time. As far as left hand exercises, scales scale patterns and intervals should give you all you'll ever use (after all that's what music is made of).

Bizarro: I gotta check that book out, I know my mom (she is a pianist) has it but she's about 10 thousand miles away, so I don't think I'll be getting it from her, maybe the school I work at carries it. I have a vage memory of me working on the piano with it when I was little. It's gonna be interesting to arrange those exercises for guitar (you could have a bass player playing with you to mimmic the left hand do it like a band exercise :D ) I'll look for it.

Um... that's it I think.

Regards,

[steve0192]

Jorge, those exercises are very much like the ones in the Hanon book for piano. That book has basically every useful musical exercise known to man! :)

It is monstrous and it doesn't have any tab (it's for piano...), but once you figure out the interval patterns it isn't a big deal.

I remember going through that after a piano playing friend lent it to me! I'd completely forgotton about it. you can download an online copy from:-

http://www.sheetmusicarchive.net/single_listing.cfm?composer_id=7

Go for parts 1 2 and 3, and you should be able to download the lot in one go.

[AcousticJames]

Wow, I haven't been here in a long time, this thread is a goldmine! Especially since I'm really starting to gather practice material so I can start a practice schedule of some kind. All of those are nice exercises. Most of my material now is theory based (arpeggios, scales, sequences like Eric V's and the ascending the scale in intervals). These are more technique based, which I like because it mixes things up. I'll be grabbing quite a few of those images.

James

[Bizarro]

James, I didn't go through the whole book as a practice ritual, but I did try every single thing in there at least once. This happened over the course of 3-4 years. I wanted "bulletproof" technique so I could play anything put in front of me! :)

At that point in my life I was very serious about guitar and I played and practiced a lot, plus I thought about music all day from a theoretical standpoint. I'm not as dedicated anymore... Now I try to be a competent and *tasteful* musician (whatever that means), but there's no way I'll be a chops monster ever again! :(

[rmuscat]

i attached a pdf file with all the Powertab exercises posted on this thread ...

hope no one minds ... and hope you find it useful :D

thanks for the threads szulc and guys!

back to work now :)

p.s. sorry for the presentation i'm no artist! (besides i'm at work!)

[szulc]

James, I didn't go through the whole book as a practice ritual, but I did try every single thing in there at least once. This happened over the course of 3-4 years. I wanted "bulletproof" technique so I could play anything put in front of me! :)

At that point in my life I was very serious about guitar and I played and practiced a lot, plus I thought about music all day from a theoretical standpoint. I'm not as dedicated anymore... Now I try to be a competent and *tasteful* musician (whatever that means), but there's no way I'll be a chops monster ever again! :(
Cool, thanks for the info. but I was actually referring to the DRFRETBOARD post. I studied some CL Hanon in college, along with some shillinger system stuff. If you read this post (pdf file) its seems there was a lot of combinatoric expansion and that you could try this stuff forever and never finish.

[forgottenking2]

LOL Bizarro, once more my wife's right I shouldn't be so "shopping happy" I went out yesterday and bought the book and now I see the links and I could've gotten the exercises for free... oh well, 6 bucks have never killed anyone (I could've had TWO BEERS with that :( lol j/k) It was so funny (weird) to play the exercises I used to hear when I was little, lots of memories. And once more I decided to campaign and get back to piano... 've tried that a couple of times and failed... let's see how I do this time.

Very useful stuff. I was running through ex 1 and 2, what I did I'd stay on the 6th 5 and 4th up until the 20th position, then I'd play following the scale pattern until the 24th fret on the first, then I'd come back using the 1st, 2nd and 3rd and finally I'd come back down the scale in first position. Sweet stuff, it's a good warm up on sight reading too (even though it all follows the same pattern). I played it on the keyboard when I got home and I still haven't gotten exercise 1... my piano technique has gone down hill (lots of work to do... so little time)

Anyway, I just wanted to share that.

[DrFretBoard]

Hehe, yeah that's often a problem when I make up exercises for myself; I try to find a "closed system" but I think that's a lost cause... better collect a variety of material and just labor on it I guess. But I actually do use these exercises because it's all pretty demanding on the picking hand. I often use the suggested fingerings in Appendix C.

[Buebo]

I thought I could share some excercises I use in the great journey of enhancing my picking technique. I always found chromatic excercises to sound crappy (well duh ;) ) and you rarely play 4 nps (especially in such a comfortable way as the chromatic scale) and on top of that, you don´t change strings that often and there are 4 notes between each change so thats easier then 3-2-1.
The following 2 excercises I practise a lot.

The first one is just a variation on the PG lick in which you practise both inside and outside picking (when you have a run on several strings you need to know both well). I add the G note on the high e string for a little more interesting sound and added difficulty cause of the roll you need to do with either your pinky or ringfinger. When you start this lick on a upstroke you invert the inside and outside picking so at first(when you start on a downstroke), your picking outside towards a higher string, and when you start with an upstroke your picking outside towards a lower string (same counts for insidepck.). I think there are important differences between those 2 as well and you will need to learn both!

The second is a excercise from Troy Stetina (i really hope I´m not breaking any rules by posting this!) and its a 3nps run which is just a basic thing I thought was important. I find changing strings in one direction (like 5 in a row towards the high e) is more diff. than just changing between 2 constantly.

I hope anyone can get a little use out of this, especially since this site and forum have been such a help for me!

Greets, Buebo.