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Metalliska
05-14-2004, 01:39 PM
Sorry to bleet on about 'tallica but just havin an arguement with my mate about what the best metallica solo is, my mate reckons Sandman, but I think that the first solo from fade to black is the mutts nuts, all the same in terms of technical demand it has to be the Ride the Lightning solo, anyone else?
Slaindude
05-14-2004, 03:13 PM
Mine would be the damage INC solo or the orion solo. i think every solo from the black album are pentatonic cliche.
But, the biggest classic would still be the master of puppets solo.
Metalliska
05-14-2004, 03:21 PM
Yeah, I wanted to say master of puppets too, but i think it's more or less a given!
johnnyhollywood
05-14-2004, 05:40 PM
master of puppets
DuH!
metalprep6969
05-14-2004, 09:11 PM
My favorites are the second solo in To Live Is To Die (a James solo), the solos in Sanitarium, the solo for Disposable Heroes, and i really dig the solos in My Friend Of Misery.
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Starsailor
05-14-2004, 09:25 PM
My favourite solos by Metallica are "To Live is to Die", "The Call of the Ktulu" and especially the outro solo to "Fade to Black". To Live is to Die and The Call of the Ktulu are extremely good at keeping the overall mood and tone of the song. For example, To Live... manages to maintain the sombre mood throughout whilst The Call... is the perfect climax to a bloody fantastic song. Finally, Fade to Black is just ...WOW!
Kurt Hammett is great at creating nice tunes from very little-mainly the minor scale and the minor pentatonic.
SE ´em all
05-14-2004, 11:44 PM
My favourites are "Hit the lights" ( interludes and the solo ) and One cause they´ve got much power in it, "Orion" because of the variation and the sound. But the one I love the most is the solo of "No leav clover" ( live).....................
I love the Welcome Home solo. Other than that... Master of Puppets. Not the song, THE WHOLE ALBUM.
Bizarro
05-15-2004, 03:15 PM
I really like the "One" solos. It's probably his last non-pentatonic/wah solo he'll ever play. Fade to Black outro is probably my favorite.
In general I fast-forward through his other solos... ;)
Koala
05-15-2004, 03:55 PM
Ive never been much of a metallica fan, but of course i know many of their tracks. If i had to choose two solos i guess itd hafta be One and M.o.P.
tom_hogan
05-16-2004, 05:26 PM
blackened
Sakkaku
05-16-2004, 11:47 PM
I'm afraid to say I like the Black Album solos the best, because they all have found memories of when I first got into the band in 1995. I came onto the scene quite late, but there wasn't that many people involved in heavy music where I come from. However, Load was the first album I bought by Metallica, then I worked by way backwards (Black Album, And Justice, Puppets etc) until I had the whole lot. Unfortunately I don't seem to like any album before Puppets (as in solos that are my favourites) - but hey, it takes many to make the world right?! I guess I like the Black Album solos because I'm starting to learn them, and I'm learning a lot from them. I'm working towards face-melting solos, but I realise I have to start somewhere. I quite like And Justice as well - some great classic songs that remind me of what was happening in 1996 (in my days of growing long hair and freaking everyone out). :D Everyone was like 'what? you're into metal? you must worship the devil!' I was like 'haha, nope' but it was funny to see all the reactions, nonetheless :D
Just thought I'd rant some incessant garble to you all :)
DDTonFire
05-17-2004, 02:04 AM
Any solo from St. Anger
;)
Slaindude
05-17-2004, 02:10 AM
hahaha, nice one there DDT.
kirk_wannabe
05-17-2004, 02:29 AM
I have many favourite solos....
Fade to Black...Master of Puppets..Blackened...Frayed Ends of Sanity...One...
However I really love the Am I Evil solo, even though it isn't metallicas original song. However I probably only like it cuz I can play it fully.
Guitarperson88
05-17-2004, 02:32 AM
I'd have to say my favorite are Creeping Death and Orion. The black album had some ****ty solos, they were all pentatonic patterns. I'm not saying kirk sucks, but his older solos were better.
DDTonFire
05-17-2004, 02:32 AM
Thanks, Slaindude.
I have to say I just joking because i don't want to start another Metallica-flaming thread! :mad: :mad: :mad:
My favorite solo is probably the first Fade to Black solo.
Sakkaku
05-17-2004, 02:35 AM
Pentatonics are the staple diet of any soloist. To dismiss them is to dismiss a lot of music that many people love.
Freakshow
05-17-2004, 03:33 AM
The second solo in "Motorbreath" is pretty cool I think!
Guitarperson88
05-17-2004, 04:51 AM
Sorry, it angers me when people dont get when i'm saying sometimes. What I mean is if all people use is the pentatonic scale it gets boring. If you use variety, when you go back to the pentatonic it sounds good. There i believe i got it right.
Metalliska
05-17-2004, 10:28 AM
Sorry, it angers me when people dont get when i'm saying sometimes. What I mean is if all people use is the pentatonic scale it gets boring. If you use variety, when you go back to the pentatonic it sounds good. There i believe i got it right.
Yeah, i think that's more or less right, I'm not slating the black album too much, hell, a Total Guitar readers pole named it the second most important guitar album ever after appetite for destruction, it's not like Kirk never used the pentatonic before black tho, check the first, post-chorus solo from 'Battery' it's just an E minor pentatonic with an added Maj2nd. Oh and well fast too!
korupt666
05-17-2004, 10:31 AM
I gotta agree with Kirk_wannabe... some of the best stuff was garage inc. They didn't have to write it, and because it was already written, they had an idea of what it should sound like... anyway i love the solo to "Am I Evil" it may be a diamond head song, but they do a good job of it.
Metalliska
05-17-2004, 10:53 AM
I gotta agree with Kirk_wannabe... some of the best stuff was garage inc. They didn't have to write it, and because it was already written, they had an idea of what it should sound like... anyway i love the solo to "Am I Evil" it may be a diamond head song, but they do a good job of it.
Straight up, I love that solo, I totally forgot about it, I leant that album to a mate ages ago and havent listened to it in ages!
osiris
05-17-2004, 11:44 AM
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http://www.ibreathemusic.com/forums/showthread.php?p=35239
Shaman_Santana
05-17-2004, 09:57 PM
My Favorite Metallica solo is the one to 'Nothing Else Matters' by Hetfield.
Other then that, obviously One and MOP are awsome, and 'No Leaf Clover' is my fav from Kirk's 'Wah era', lol.
Dyers_Eve
05-17-2004, 11:59 PM
I agree with all you guys about the solos you've stated. I think all the ones from ...AJFA are great.. But I'm surprised no one has said Dyer's Eve's solo yet. Great song with an awesome solo.
Vai=god
05-18-2004, 06:05 AM
i'd have tosay my fav solo, song and album is master of puppets. But one, fade to black and creeping death also rock.
Sakkaku
05-18-2004, 11:35 AM
Sorry, it angers me when people dont get when i'm saying sometimes. What I mean is if all people use is the pentatonic scale it gets boring. If you use variety, when you go back to the pentatonic it sounds good. There i believe i got it right.
I hear what you're saying Guitarperson88, and I agree because I'm a guitarist. However, whenever anyone I know has decided to learn some kind of scale to solo with, its been a pentatonic. Some guitarists don't move on from there technically, and some guitarists do. There are those in between - such as myself, who would like to solo like Hammett, Vai, Satriani etc, but at the moment I am grasping how pentatonics work over chords. Too many they say 'it's not hard' but to me, it's a challenge.
I don't want to move onto 'F# dominant lydian/double harmonic minor' scales etc without grasping the basics.
Variety is great. And to those who can solo like madmen, I say 'don't hold back'. But to those learners such as myself I say 'keep going guys!'.
forgottenking2
05-18-2004, 02:27 PM
I like the Outro on Fade to Black I think that's my favorite Metallica's solo... I like the harmonized part in Orion (slow 3/4 with the bass riff) , One... that's about it... oh, I like Master of Puppets (the slow solo though)... don't really care for Kirk's fast playing... sorry guys
D-Day
05-18-2004, 03:00 PM
The ending solo to Fade to Black, the Master of Puppets solo, and No Leaf Clover's solo.
And Dyer's_Eve, I love that song too, and that solo is psycho.
My favourite is ride the lighting , what a solo!
metalprep6969
05-18-2004, 10:50 PM
I definitely don't think Kirk is the best guitarist, but he's good. He's got what it takes because he takes what he knows about music and makes the music he wants to make. You don't have to be the most versatile, most learn-ed musician to write good, expressive music, and Kirk is an example to that. Sure he'll probably never write a song like "Whispering a Prayer", but his guitar work still moves me. There are players that know just about every scale in the book and can't write a song or solo for crap, or perform it in a way that wreaks of feeling, and there are players that know a lil about music (not a vast knowledge, but not ignorance), and can use that to make good music that they are proud of themselves, and that's what it's all about. Sorry about my rant, but it seems like everything is a comparison these days. Kirk is no Satch or Vai, but he has a style that many like. Many try to imitate his style (metallicesque bands), but none will be quite like him. His style may be more of a raw and underdeveloped nature, but that's what a lot of people like. I mean if people didn't like raw and underdeveloped, no one would have ever bought a Nirvana cd.
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Metalliska
05-19-2004, 10:48 AM
I definitely don't think Kirk is the best guitarist, but he's good. He's got what it takes because he takes what he knows about music and makes the music he wants to make. You don't have to be the most versatile, most learn-ed musician to write good, expressive music, and Kirk is an example to that. Sure he'll probably never write a song like "Whispering a Prayer", but his guitar work still moves me. There are players that know just about every scale in the book and can't write a song or solo for crap, or perform it in a way that wreaks of feeling, and there are players that know a lil about music (not a vast knowledge, but not ignorance), and can use that to make good music that they are proud of themselves, and that's what it's all about. Sorry about my rant, but it seems like everything is a comparison these days. Kirk is no Satch or Vai, but he has a style that many like. Many try to imitate his style (metallicesque bands), but none will be quite like him. His style may be more of a raw and underdeveloped nature, but that's what a lot of people like. I mean if people didn't like raw and underdeveloped, no one would have ever bought a Nirvana cd.
\m/Damn right, kirk can get a bit repetitive, but some of what he does wreaks of so much passion, i think that counts for a hell of lot when it comes to being a good musician, making that instrument an extension of your own voice and making it actually say something, takes raw talent, no two ways.
tom_hogan
05-19-2004, 12:18 PM
I definitely don't think Kirk is the best guitarist, but he's good. He's got what it takes because he takes what he knows about music and makes the music he wants to make. You don't have to be the most versatile, most learn-ed musician to write good, expressive music, and Kirk is an example to that. Sure he'll probably never write a song like "Whispering a Prayer", but his guitar work still moves me. There are players that know just about every scale in the book and can't write a song or solo for crap, or perform it in a way that wreaks of feeling, and there are players that know a lil about music (not a vast knowledge, but not ignorance), and can use that to make good music that they are proud of themselves, and that's what it's all about. Sorry about my rant, but it seems like everything is a comparison these days. Kirk is no Satch or Vai, but he has a style that many like. Many try to imitate his style (metallicesque bands), but none will be quite like him. His style may be more of a raw and underdeveloped nature, but that's what a lot of people like. I mean if people didn't like raw and underdeveloped, no one would have ever bought a Nirvana cd.
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yeah i agree
whispering a prayer is good but metallica write songs that both musicains and non m both like and enjoy
that is far more valuable in my opinion:)
vai didnt write enter sandman!
Sakkaku
05-19-2004, 12:29 PM
Yeah, the opening riff for Enter Sandman is seriously THE most played Metallica riff - even by those who don't really play the guitar. I don't think any other metal band has had such a broad influence. I could be wrong, but all of you should take a minute to reflect on what is the catchiest riff in the metal genre that the majority of people you know would instantly recognize, and I think Enter Sandman would be right up there.
Yes, I have changed the topic slightly! :)
debaser
05-19-2004, 02:27 PM
Well, Hammett obviously didn't write Enter Sandman either. Hetfield is so much better a guitar player in so many ways, particularly in his sense of composition(duh), and his melodies. I'm sure I'm not the only one that knows that James always played all guitars except for solos(of which he has some good ones) on Kill Em All, Ride, MOP, and ATJFA. That's pretty impressive when you think about it. I'd rather have that on my resume than the solo in Fade to Black. I think my main issue with Kirk is not his rawness - that's the cool part - it's how hopelessly derivative he is. If you rolled Randy Rhodes, Michael Schenker, and Jimmy Page into one guitar player, taking away some of the briliant melodic phrasing of each of them, you'd pretty much have Hammett's style.
Btw, has anyone heard Beatallica? That is some funny stuff.
phantom
05-19-2004, 02:50 PM
Hetfield is so much better a guitar player in so many ways, particularly in his sense of composition(duh), and his melodies
you are right.
Well, Hammett obviously didn't write Enter Sandman either
you are unfortunately wrong. the "main theme" is written by hammet. the rest is hetfield and ulrich.
i know thats sad, cause hetfield (and ulrich) is metallica and hammet is (still!!!) something like a payed lead guitarist. it was pure luck for hammet that he played the riff and hetfield sayed "that's cool - let's make a song out of it".
just my opinion.
sven
debaser
05-19-2004, 03:24 PM
Ok, fair enough. I didn't realize that he had actually written that riff. Even so, without Hetfield's work on the song, it wouldn't be the memorable hook that it is; ie. a riff whose recognizability is up there with Iron Man, or Smoke on the Water.
metalprep6969
05-19-2004, 10:12 PM
Yeah many of the riffs from the earlier albums were Kirk's. James would have him submit riff tapes and he got to decide which ones would be used. Kind of asinine and controlling, but that's just how things worked out.
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