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Priest Becker
07-28-2004, 07:29 PM
Ok I know your all thinking why doesn't he just look in the articles to find something to help with this. Well let me explain. You see all the exercise I have come aross only build your chops for playing 3 notes per string then going to the next string. I have no problems with that. But lets say im going to play 2 notes per string then maybe one on the next and then 2 on the next and work my way back down for a melody or something that goes faster than usual. I was wondering if anyone had any exercises to work these chops to build them up better. I noticed timmons does alot of this and gilbert does a bit as well and my chops in this are arn't the greatest. I have no idea what to practice for exercises. I have been practicing 3 to a string and I dont need any help in that area so please do not post anything for chops of three fingers to a string anything else to help build melody chops for like 2 to s string and wierd combos with that would be much apreaciated. Thank you in advanced.
se_12121
07-28-2004, 09:37 PM
If you already have quote, "No problem" with 3nps scales, then why not just make ur own 2nps scales up, if you hav some, "serious chops" in 3nps u should be able to work out some patterns from 2nps, just stick to alternate picking and play with a metronome i guess, using patterns u work out from scales to be 2nps. Otherwise, Zakk Wylde uses a lot of pentatonic licks which are 2nps, check out Bizzarro's article on economy picking, it shows you an alternative way to pick not using alternate piking, and he applies it to 2nps patterns. Check out No More Tears Solo, and part of the Desire solo, Zakk uses lots of 2nps. Hope That helps. Sean
Priest Becker
07-28-2004, 10:10 PM
Thanks it didnt take too long to get down "2nps" after i started making them with scales and what not. It was just a matter of getting used to playing them. Thanks for the advice.
fastfingersfunk
07-28-2004, 11:39 PM
try this, 2nps-1nps-2nps-1nps-2nps here is one example that would work over Cm. now take this idea and move it down a step in the same key. the spacing will change once you start with a different note but keep the 2-1-2-1-2 and start woodshedding that.
EDIT: added file below.
fastfingersfunk
07-28-2004, 11:41 PM
that didn't work. what program do you guys use to post TAB in here? the one where it looks like you convert the tab to gif or jpg and then insert it.
Priest Becker
07-28-2004, 11:50 PM
powertabs
fastfingersfunk
07-28-2004, 11:55 PM
here, i did this for you in powertab but i'm talking about the one that isn't an attachement, it's just an image file. remember, this is an example, you can twist it many ways. like 3-2-3-1-2 etc.
Priest Becker
07-29-2004, 01:14 AM
Thanks man i apreciate it (damned my horrible spelling)
Bizarro
07-29-2004, 01:15 AM
Szulc wrote an article on this, http://www.ibreathemusic.com/article/84
We also had a great thread about it:
http://www.ibreathemusic.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=414
I added an exercise in that thread which should help immensely. Scroll down until you see my post with "picking_exercise.ptb" attached.
James (szulc) and I generally take a mathematical approach to developing ways to advance technique, as opposed to a collection of licks.
fastfingersfunk
07-29-2004, 01:43 AM
Thanks man i apreciate it (damned my horrible spelling)
no problem. if you need anything else just email me at theillchef@aol.com and i'd be glad to help you out anytime. there's a great lesson similair to what you are looking for by shaun baxter in guitar techniques, from a couple of months ago. if you email me i'll transfer it to powertab and send the mp3's with it too. :D
For 2nps I pretty much practice the pentatonic scales and the diminished scales.
szulc
07-29-2004, 11:50 AM
I am curious how you execute the diminished scale with 2 nps?
Maybe you mean Diminished arpeggios?
szulc
07-29-2004, 11:57 AM
http://www.ibreathemusic.com/article/60
Unhorizon
07-29-2004, 02:57 PM
First check out EricV's article on Steve Morse or go look up powertabs for Steve Morse stuff, he does a lot of 2 nps and 1nps picking stuff.
Learn diminished 7 arpeggios. Once you learn them on the fretboard you'll notice the easiest way to play them is 2 and 1 nps.
No offense but I don't think you looked very hard through the articles on this site. EricV I know has at least 5-10 articles on picking (which I'm sure have a lot on 2 nps and 1 nps stuff) and SZulc's difficult picking exercises article is pretty much what you're looking for (lot's of 2 nps stuff) and I'm sure there are many more.
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