No Boundaries......

[axe_man_oli]

Any of you guys here learnt this yet? I have just started with the neo-classical section and i'm working on my three string sweep. Its a nice song.

With the other sweeps however i am having some difficulty. Could some kind person show me a link or exercise that i can use for a good number of hours a day that will give me a solid grasp sweep. I need a couple of things to get the right hand motion going.

Any help appreciated... :D

[AyKay]

theres a lesson @ cyberfret.com

[axe_man_oli]

I already used that lesson. I am a member over at Cyberfret. That exercise is boring as hell. I just need some simple three string arps all over the neck that i can use to build my technique but at the same time make some nice sounding etudes...

[Santuzzo]

There is a part in Yngwie Malmsteen's Trilogy Suite Opus 5, which can serve as a great three string seeping exercise.
It where he plays the triads : Cm, Ddim, Bdim, Cm, Ab, Adim, etc.

I think Yngwie plays them as sweeps over three strings (they could also be played on two strings using a hammer on).

Eventhough Yngwie plays them ascending you might also practice them descending, then you practice sweeping in both directions.

Greetz,
Lars

[chris]

Why not buy the DVD Speed Kills and let Michael teach you himself?

[GtrvVampyre]

OMG DUDE, perfect if you want 3 string sweeps. Check out Demon Driver by Yngwie Malmsteen. Goto power tab or MySongBook or somthing like that and get the tab. They have this awesome 3 string sweep interlude thing, you will see it. I LOVE it and its an up and down so it builds up Coordination alot!

[btangel]

any of you guys actually learned the entire song? o_O it looks like it could take a year to learn....

[GtrvVampyre]

I need to learn a new song, i might actually attempt it x.x... BTW the tapping may look impossible but if you slow it down, its mainly 3 finger taps. Theres a places though where it looks like he uses another finger to hammer on a tap after tapping one with his right hand. These are some huge stretches and i can make them but they are pretty long. I was wondering since he sometimes plays with his left hand over the fret board, anyone knows if the tapping is done normally or is his hand overtop of the fretboard?

[axe_man_oli]

Okay i'll ckeck out demon driver. Thanks for the feedback. Has anyone actually learnt the whole of no boundaries?

Also, i would buy the DVD with Michael on because it looks really helpful and it is split up all nice and easy. BUT, I can't find it in the shops. I live in the U.K so if anybody knows where i can buy it i might go buy it.

[chris]

Also, i would buy the DVD with Michael on because it looks really helpful and it is split up all nice and easy. BUT, I can't find it in the shops. I live in the U.K so if anybody knows where i can buy it i might go buy it.

Your going to have to buy it from either Michael at his web site or Doug Marks at www.metalmethod.com

[wild_child]

Also, i would buy the DVD with Michael on because it looks really helpful and it is split up all nice and easy. BUT, I can't find it in the shops. I live in the U.K so if anybody knows where i can buy it i might go buy it.

ebay ;)

also, the new DVD "speed lives" is better for learning the actual song "no boundaries" as it breaks it down step by step, the example of "no boundaries" in speed kills is just a show-offy thing.

[Vai=god]

Although i haven't seen the whole of the speed kills dvd, i've heard that is's about 80% Michael angelo showing off without many useful instructions. Has anyone actually got the dvd? because i would like to hear what u think of it. as far as sweeping goes u can find all u need 2 know about it on the internet. u can download an awesome tab for no boundaries at www.powertabs.net (http://www.powertabs.net).
or visit www.chopsfromhell.com (http://www.chopsfromhell.com)

[axe_man_oli]

Yup, I have a vid of Michael playing speed lives. Its off the instructional video. It says that the video is broken down into something like 27 steps with slow versions and fast versions and it hasd a detailed commentary by michael telling you how to go about practicing the parts and what to do and what not to do and how not to get tendonitis and so on. So i guess its all i would need to learn the song. I will try and get a copy. But for the mean time I will learn those malmsteen three string arps i think... That should help me to cover more of no boundaries.

[wild_child]

Although i haven't seen the whole of the speed kills dvd, i've heard that is's about 80% Michael angelo showing off without many useful instructions. Has anyone actually got the dvd? because i would like to hear what u think of it.

i have the DVD. There are many clips of michael showing off towards the beginning but it's done in a fairly tounge-in-cheek way, and i think its just something to get you inspired to work on what he tells you in the rest of the video. its certainly not 80% showing off or anything like that and there is a lot of useful stuff in there too. He puts a lot of emphasis on avoiding injury through correct technique (the "banana finger" etc.) and goes through the three main picking styles used in fast guitar playing in a fair bit of depth.

[Relaxation]

Hey axe man! Why not make the hard parts as the exercise? Just do it with a metronome and the thing itself can be considered an exercise. Making exercises out of real licks is a great way of breaking out of the exercise habit and focusing on the musical aspect.

[GtrvVampyre]

Argh im sorry, im sucha newb. You guys are talking about no boundries. Im thinking of speed kills x.x.

Wait....They are the same thing arnt they?.....Im getting so confused e.e

[wild_child]

Argh im sorry, im sucha newb. You guys are talking about no boundries. Im thinking of speed kills x.x.

Wait....They are the same thing arnt they?.....Im getting so confused e.e

"no boundaries" is a song in itself. it is the example song he plays at the beginning of the instructional video "speed kills" although what he plays is quite different from the recording; the version on "speed lives" is more accurate, although neither do the cool tapping arpeggios at the end which are on the recorded version, for some reason..

[schematics]

He puts a lot of emphasis on avoiding injury through correct technique (the "banana finger" etc.) and goes through the three main picking styles used in fast guitar playing in a fair bit of depth.
Hi wild_child

what's the "banana finger"?

[axe_man_oli]

i thought no boundaries was the studio recording of speed lives or something. Or was that speed kills and speed lives.... ???? I'm not sure. What i do know is the songs are very similar. No boundaries is from what i can tell mostly identical to the recordings of speed lives i have...

[chris]

i thought no boundaries was the studio recording of speed lives or something. Or was that speed kills and speed lives.... ???? I'm not sure. What i do know is the songs are very similar. No boundaries is from what i can tell mostly identical to the recordings of speed lives i have...
THis will answer all your questions:
http://metalmethod.com/42_store.htm

[axe_man_oli]

Speed lives IS no boundaries... It says so there. I want to buy the DVD because I'm certain that it would really, really, really help my playing. But i can't order it because I live in the U.K. anyone know where i can order the DVD from in the U.K., if only i could get hold of it....

I would be able to use it non-stop and learnt he entire song properly without any worries... and then i would be able to play like a god....

ahhh.. if only..:)

[wild_child]

Hi wild_child

what's the "banana finger"?

the "banana finger" is when you don't keep your finger bent on the fretboard and you push downwards, causing the top joint on the finger to bend the wrong way a little, hence the shape of a banana. (that's the best i can explain it, i'll post an example picture if you want though) doing this repeatedly can lead to tendonitis and other bad things so avoid doing it!

[schematics]

thanks, I think I know what you mean (no picture needed)

[Barking Pumpkin]

Speed lives IS no boundaries... It says so there. I want to buy the DVD because I'm certain that it would really, really, really help my playing. But i can't order it because I live in the U.K. anyone know where i can order the DVD from in the U.K., if only i could get hold of it....

I would be able to use it non-stop and learnt he entire song properly without any worries... and then i would be able to play like a god....

ahhh.. if only..:)

The only major difference as someone else said is that Speed Lives doesn't have the tapping part of No Boundaries included.

[wild_child]

But i can't order it because I live in the U.K. anyone know where i can order the DVD from in the U.K., if only i could get hold of it....

dude, it's on ebay.co.uk, i guarantee it!

in fact, screw it, here's the link http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43652&item=4029307657&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW enjoy!

p.s. what mike doesnt provide on the DVD is a metronome, and to get this stuff down you'll need one! Remember to take everything at your own pace, this song is HARD! 200bpm in places, phew..

p.p.s. "No boundaries" is the name of the song!!! speed kills is the name of the DVD/VHS and speed lives is the name of the sequel DVD - as in "speed is still alive in '03" geddit? The variations in the song are just there for the sake of variation. The song "No Boundaries" can be found on his first solo CD of the same name. (Although that was released some years after the "speed kills" video was made) but the song "No Boundaries" has little to do with that video, it's just featured in there for the sake of showcasing himself a little.

[axe_man_oli]

Great! I'll order that next week when i get back from my holiday... and then I'll learn the whole thing...

I have got a fair way in anyway... I have the three string arps down in the neo-classical section to very nearly full speed. I have the opening 5 string sweep pretty good and all the stuff inbetween... and then theres another bunch of three strings arps which i have almost got perfect... and then it goes into the really hard stuff... some of which i have started to wade through... but its gunna take a while...

[GtrvVampyre]

Ok i decided it, iv got to learn this song. It will improve my playing SO much better and in a year i might can have it perfect at his speed. I remember i learned malmsteens stuff before i could even play really fast and now i'v gotten it down to where i can rip it apart faster than its soppose to go, like he does in live versions.Only problem is a song this big and hard is gonna discourage me. I was wondering if anyone else is learning it or knows it that i could keep in contact with for help with parts i may get stuck on or maby work together on? If anyone is interested then give me a PM or e-mail.