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wiechfreak
12-04-2004, 06:23 PM
I have a wierd learning style, or at least i think it is, and i cant figure out why it works.

OK, most people when learning a tough solo, will slow it down, play it perfect speed it up til they can pla yit perfect at full speed then move on right?

What happens to me is, I'll learn something perfect up to full speed, but as i get there, i get just a ibt sloppy on a few parts. And when i get it at full speed nNO MATTER WHAT I'll always miss a note or play a part sloppy. Then ill move onto another solo, and about a week or two later (after not plaiyng it) I'l lcome back to the other solo and play it perfect! Nowi m not wondering how to change this, because it works well, but i just dont understand how NOT playing a solo for a while suddenly cleansit up, and makes me play it perfect? Does this happen to you guys, or am i just insane :D

VidKid
12-04-2004, 07:15 PM
well here's my 3 cents worth (more inflation)

that happens to me also, and sort of wonder about it. it could be that you've practiced just about as far as you can go with a passage and after a few weeks learning something else you can now play it. it could be that your technique now has improved, your "brain power" is fully recharged, or new internal knowledge has been obtained, if you know what i mean. i personally do not learn licks/passages to the last note in perfection. i used to when i started out rote copying and i think everybody does at first, it's a natural process of learning. i feel you are sometimes wasting time trying to grab licks that are beyond your reach, but it demonstrates that you need more technique or knowledge to play them correctly. i move on when i get the overall feel, the theory understanding of why it works and don't spend a lot of time trying to copy it exactly note for note. if you're in a Top 40 cover band, you'll probably have to copy fairly close, because every guitar player out in the audience is waiting for you to screw up. while on stage, you usually know who are the guitar players in the audience watching. LOL

as an example, when learning major classical pieces, i'll learn 3 at a time and work out the easy sections first, then work up to the difficult parts, eventually learning all 3 pieces as one big song. i feel you would spend about the same amount of time learning just one piece than you would learning all 3, because you spend so much wasted time in one difficult section. you'll might as well be more productive learning something else, then revisit that difficult section and usually I'm able to progress a little bit farther. i do the same thing for fusion/jazz stuff, i'll learn the whole album as on big tune, switching back and forth between learning the songs/solos. IMHO, you're just more productive in learning. don't waste time if it ain't going to happen' right away, you've reached your current threshold. be patient and eventually that difficult section will happen for ya "magically" for you one day. you're busting through barriers and it never stops. some barriers are really tough and take a long time to bust through, like shredding. the key is to not give up. there's always a another higher level to achieve. it demonstrates progress and you're "learning how to learn".

great question and i hope this sheds some light,

VidKid

Dimebag
12-04-2004, 08:17 PM
I get that too. I think its just where you practise so much, it gets stale, then when you come back, its all still in your head, but its a fresh approach. That happened to me with sweep picking. I spent a couple of weeks trying to get it at a half decent speed, and i kinda did, but it was uber messy. Then i got bored and forgot. I remembered it like a month later, and tried it, and had it damn good as soon as i tried an arpeggio.