Classical Pieces and Technical guitar playing

[DemonSorcerer]

Does anyone here likes to play classical pieces?? not classical guitar pieces but Violin Concertos, Flute Sonatas, Symphonies and the like...

Violin music rocks...Vivaldi, Corelli and that sort of italian baroque stuff...not to mention good ol' Paganini...but there's also Bach's Violin Concertos and Bradenburg Concertos, with a solo for every instrument...Flute, Keyboard, Violin...the Cello Suites...*grins happily*

If anyone can suggest any pieces that are technically challenging, i'd appreciate that...of course, i'll drop my contribution to set the example...

Vivaldi's 4 Seasons and Flute Concertos
J.S. Bach's Violin Concertos
Paganini's Concerto 1 in D and Concerto 2 in Bm (this one has La Campanella, a famous violin piece)
The Concerto Grossos from Corelli, Locatelli and Albinoni..they're GREAT!!

thanks for replying, guys!!

David

[Toni Lloret]

Hello DemonSorcerer,
some clasical etudes here ;)
Canon Tap (http://www.tonilloret.net/eng/modules.php?op=modload&name=UpDownload&file=index&req=viewdownloaddetails&lid=35&ttitle=Canon_Tap)
Allegro Picking Etude (http://www.tonilloret.net/eng/modules.php?op=modload&name=UpDownload&file=index&req=viewdownloaddetails&lid=36&ttitle=Allegro_(Picking_Etude))
Caprice N.1 (http://www.tonilloret.net/eng/modules.php?op=modload&name=UpDownload&file=index&req=viewdownloaddetails&lid=22&ttitle=Capricho_N.1)
Caprice N.24 (http://www.tonilloret.net/eng/modules.php?op=modload&name=UpDownload&file=index&req=viewdownloaddetails&lid=23&ttitle=Caprice_N.24)
The Filgth of The Bumblebee (http://www.tonilloret.net/esp/modules.php?op=modload&name=UpDownload&file=index&req=viewdownloaddetails&lid=32&ttitle=El_Vuelo_del_Moscardón)
Caprice N.17 (http://www.tonilloret.net/esp/modules.php?op=modload&name=UpDownload&file=index&req=viewdownloaddetails&lid=33&ttitle=Capricho_N._17_by_Nicolo_Paganini)
Enjoy it :)

PL: If they want they can use anyone of these arrangements for the section of articles of the web ;) .

[xenor]

Check out Chopin's Etudes. There are Op.10 etudes and Op.25 etudes. You can play one line and another friend can play another.

[rmuscat]

at the moment i'm working on this book "Raising the barre"
http://www.raisingthebarre.com/

it's much like hannon for guitar with a musical value. The pieces are not complete, but it broken down in sections and designed (arragned) in such a way to work on a specific technique.

Its like a bunch of etudes. I'm finding it pretty challenging and fun. You also get an idea of what composers are around and how you can adapt their music to guitar. The same guy who wrote the book arranged some bach solo stuff for guitar. Besides you get deep in the compositional value of music.

I don't know if that fits your needs -- it fits mine (for now :p)

[DemonSorcerer]

Thanks for the fast replying, dudes...

Toni, did i mention that i'm sooooooooo bored of listening to Paganini's Caprices?? thanks for the great intention...:) I have my own version of the 24th Caprice, but i'll check yours...

Thanks for the Chopin Etude option, Xenor...i'll check them all, since i love electric guitar duos, and i'm starting to like Romantic piano music...i have this friend that plays with me the 8th two part invention from bach...and i think we'll work on the 13th one...it really rocks...

David

[xenor]

and i think we'll work on the 13th one...it really rocks...

David

I have a guitar duo too and we're playing classical music. We have invention 13 in our repertoire and here's my arrangement.

Since guitar sounds 8vb than written, I've transposed both parts one octave higher so it fits guitar's range. 2nd guitar is also dropped D.

[jazzIII]

Actually, I have a really cool piece that I learned from a flute book of all things.
I'd love to share it with everyone, yet there is one concern: it's from a REALLY old book and there is no real title or author mentioned for said piece; it's simply called "No. 7". Is it an infringement to post it here?

I know that many of you would really dig this piece, but I want to be certain I'm within the rules here,


Kel

[spookywooky]

all this stuff looks gold! ive been wanting to play some classical stuff for a few days now, so i'll be checking this out. thanks..

rmuscat: that book looks really sweet. i don't even know much about it, but for some reason i feel really compelled to buy it right now. good move?


-spooky

[DemonSorcerer]

I have a guitar duo too and we're playing classical music. We have invention 13 in our repertoire and here's my arrangement.

Thanks, buddy!! I happen to have an arrangement of mine for that invention...i grabbed the sheet music for piano and made my own fingerings and stuff...;) i also have my version for the 8th part invention, which is different from the one Paul Gilbert does in the Guitar from Mars video...here it is..

I also have the 4th Invention arranged for two guitars...it's attached too in the post so i hop you all enjoy it. Have fun!!

David

[rmuscat]

all this stuff looks gold! ive been wanting to play some classical stuff for a few days now, so i'll be checking this out. thanks..

rmuscat: that book looks really sweet. i don't even know much about it, but for some reason i feel really compelled to buy it right now. good move?


-spooky

hey spooky ...

depends what you are after...

if you are after refining your guitar technique then it looks pretty fine coz "raising the barre" (the main book) is designed specifically for that use. It concentrates on alternate picking and different aspects of that (half the book), sweep picking, legato, hybrid picking (intro), two hand tapping and polyphony (more than one note a once).
The good thing is that each of the pieces adapted and arranged from a real classic music compositions so it's fun, interesting but TOUGH ... again in my humble opinion.

If you are after actualy real full blown music i think he has other stuff, bach solos (two of them) and one for two guitars. I don't have those though (only the above mentioned).

As for the presentation in general i think its pretty good. Well laid out, with spiral binding to avoid elves closing books. Beware though this is not published with a publishing house so don't expect miracles (well at least i felt some tabs could be laid out better in the book, but Mr. Dahmen made sure that each piece fits on 1/2 pages to avoid ANY page flips during playing, in fact there is nothing of the sort in the case of this book, he told me in other though he couldn't go without it coz some pieces are long).

I can live with cramped tabs in this case that since it seems the etudes are meant to be learnt in memory (memory seems to be an intergral part of the studies).

Apart from that Mr. Dahmen the author is a nice guy and even sent me midi files of the stuff on the book, so i can hear them and answering a bunch of questions.

Hell this really sounds like ads but i think the guy is doing a pretty good job IMHO.

[oRg]

hmm...something I would find challenging would be playing Schoenberg at a faster tempo...lol. I'm a big fan of Paganini's Caprice which would be IMO the best classical piece to play on guitar/violin. I also like J.S. Bach's Fugues and Flight of the Bumblebee, though for the life of me I can't remember the composer(s).

[DemonSorcerer]

hmm...something I would find challenging would be playing Schoenberg at a faster tempo...lol. I'm a big fan of Paganini's Caprice which would be IMO the best classical piece to play on guitar/violin.

Great, Org!! I'm also a big fan of the Caprices...there are several caprices that i really dig...some of them are the 11th (My fav of all time), the 21th, the 24th, the 9th...also the 23th for its Baroque-sounding scheme... :)


I also like J.S. Bach's Fugues and Flight of the Bumblebee, though for the life of me I can't remember the composer(s).

The name of that composer is Nikolai Andreevich Rimsky-Korsakov...you may have noticed that i'm a BIG fan of classical music...:D

David

[MusicM@n]

This is a very cool thead. Thanks guys! :p

[xenor]

you may have noticed that i'm a BIG fan of classical music...:D


It's nice to see people who really like classical music. Do you have a preference of periods or composers?

[ViolinMaster]

Hey, These are some of my personal favorites. Very very catchy tunes, if I do say so my self. Enjoy!

1. The Great String Concertos- Vivaldi
2. Double Violin Concerto Vivaci- Bach
3. Cello Suite No.3- Bach
4. 1812 Overture- Beethoven
5. Tempest- Beethoven.
6. 9th Symphony- Beethoven

[DemonSorcerer]

It's nice to see people who really like classical music. Do you have a preference of periods or composers?

YES SIR!!!

I've always liked Italian Baroque music more than the rest of the classical music there is...Antonio Vivaldi, Pietro Locatelli, Arcangelo Corelli, Tomaso Albinoni...It's far more melodical and happy-sounding than the dark, more dramatic-sounding German Baroque music...represented by J.S. Bach and his sons Carl Phillip Emmanuel Bach and Johann Christian Bach...even when some of JS Bach's works are among my really favorite ones, i still prefer Italian Baroque Music...like i said, Vivaldi, Locatelli, Corelli...;) there's also this REALLY, REALLY GREAT Italian composer named Domenico Scarlatti...buddy...if you like Baroque Music, you MUST check his keyboard sonatas..composed for Harpsichord...in my opinion, they're better than most harpsichord composition made by JS Bach...but it's just my opinion...it's a matter of tastes...

Here's a cool ptb file of a great Scarlatti Sonata for classical guitar...it's kinda difficult, i know, but it's GREAT!!! there's also one in Dm that i really love, but...*sighs happily!!!* well, here it is!!

David

[spookywooky]

thanks for the replay rmuscat. yeah, I think I am more after a technique/etude type thing, so that sounds pretty good...

Well i just did the conversion to Australian dollars, and even plus shipping it's less than i expected... :)

Thanks for the recommendation, I'll ask my parents to.. ask santa ;)

[mole98]

i play alot of bach and pagannini stuff on guitar badinierre is a favorite at the moment im also currently learning moto perpetuo. after rock and metal classical music is my favorite :D

[Jamie FT]

I've been set a classical piece to learn over xmas from my guitar teacher that's a nice piece, the annoying thing about it is that i've never heard it before, and was wondering if anyone had a recording of it, it's J S Bach's Prelude from cello suite number one.

Also because it's classical it's fingerpicked, which im not very good at, i was wondering, is it preferred by technique buffs to rest the pinky while fingerpicking like plectrum picking?

[axe_man_oli]

I like a lot of paganini and alot of Bach. I learnt Double not long ago and I started learning a study for two violins, both Bach. Double is a fantastic practice for alternate/economy picking, and the study for two violins is an exellent thing to play with two players. Its a technically demanding piece, but to make it sound right you have to synch it all with another player whos playing a corresponding melody. Its alot of fun if you have someone decent to try it with, although my friend could have managed it aswell as me, he wasn't particularly interested, so I didn't go to far with it.
I need to learn moto perpetuo, but seen as its 5 or so minutes of shred, I'll stick to learning the first ten pages worth, rather than the whole 32.

[rmuscat]

and was wondering if anyone had a recording of it, it's J S Bach's Prelude from cello suite number one.

jamie i think its a good idea if you go along without actually hearing a recording, stick to the score -- i used to make my way through known songs pretty easily but that used to harm badly my reading skills ... its tough i know but it do a great deal of good to your playing/reading abilities

well at least thats my opinion i could be wrong

[mattblack850]

It's also worth checking out what Ritchie Blackmore is up to these days!!

Rennaisance is back!!!!!! (eh?????)

[DemonSorcerer]

It's also worth checking out what Ritchie Blackmore is up to these days!!

Rennaisance is back!!!!!! (eh?????)

Sorry, i meant STRICTLY CLASSICAL music...Reinassance music is great too...I love John Dowland's lute pieces...but just that...no Blackmore and such things...it's nice, i meawn, but that's not classical.

David

[Jamie FT]

jamie i think its a good idea if you go along without actually hearing a recording, stick to the score -- i used to make my way through known songs pretty easily but that used to harm badly my reading skills ... its tough i know but it do a great deal of good to your playing/reading abilities

well at least thats my opinion i could be wrong
that's a good idea! ill try it :)

[Tony Finch]

The original cello prelude is in G min but the guitar transcription I have is in D min (6th to D); it might be better to listen to the original version first (probably on the internet somewhere - try Amazon Classical Music as there may be sampler you could hear). Your pinkie - if you mean the little finger - doesn't rest on anything. Ideally it shouldn't move at all as the other three fingers play but that's easier said than done! It ought to simply hang there, not touching anything.