View Full Version : Holy **** Check Out The Next Bach
Arpetude
03-09-2005, 09:25 PM
i know this was posted in the new touch guitarist thread. BUT THIS GUY HIMSELF DESERVES A THREAD.
http://adam.fulara.com/e.php?g=music
maybe its just my obsession with Bach, coupled by the fact that i thought (until today) that i would NEVER be able to play both lines the piece i am working on without having to learn a whole new intrument like the organ.
but i will say it again. this guys rules all. this guy is so good he is going on my small list of influences (which contains guys like yngwie etc.).
thoughts?
It's cool and great playing, but to me the guitar is a 6-string axe, a pick and an amp (or classical nylon).
Stanley Jordan and this guy fill their own niche and I really wish them the best, but the dynamic range and the tonal results by tapping the axe will always be somewhat limited compared to using a pick or playing in the classical style.
Sir Speedy
03-10-2005, 02:06 AM
Yes it's different style . It's would be nice to be able to accompany your self like the piano does , on guitar .
Guitaristst are limmited in that way . They must record to backing tracks , But so does SAx , and every other wind instrument .Key Board like guitar , is very visual , as far as where the octaves are and where you make the chords , most guitarists know enough keyboards to make backing tracks .
The "argument " Here would be how "Harmonically Advanced " is the Music we're talking about , verses ,the Solo performance aspect .
Charlie Parker , and Chick Corea , are about as "Harmonically Advanced as it gets . But that kind of content isn't everything . Miles Davis , for example , liked Composing and having other soloists , shine on his tunes .
The only Guitar performance that stands on it's own , with out a backing track is.... classical Guitar ,.... Michael Hedges Type Stuff ,.... and Joe Pass Style Finger Style Jazz .
This Stick style is really quite a specticle , just as those Classical Guitars with the Extra strings for pedal tones , for the Michael Hedges style , make a good street performance .The fact stick can be used for Jazz is amazing
it has potential to draw alot of attention , as Classical guitar did in the Teens , (1800-1900 etc)
Good luck to anyone going that route :cool:
T. Levitts if YES plays Chapman Stick, doesn't he ?? I wonder if there are any CDs of that ??
Mateo150
03-10-2005, 05:10 AM
Guitar doesn't need backing tracks, check out SRV songs on MTV unplugged he did way back when. Or some of Hendrix's solo guitar pieces. They use their thumb a lot, but they do get a nice full sound.
DemonSorcerer
03-10-2005, 05:21 AM
i know this was posted in the new touch guitarist thread. BUT THIS GUY HIMSELF DESERVES A THREAD.
http://adam.fulara.com/e.php?g=music
maybe its just my obsession with Bach, coupled by the fact that i thought (until today) that i would NEVER be able to play both lines the piece i am working on without having to learn a whole new intrument like the organ.
but i will say it again. this guys rules all. this guy is so good he is going on my small list of influences (which contains guys like yngwie etc.).
thoughts?
That guy rocks, for sure...in fact, what's a mazing is that he has the same independence as a Pianist would have at certain level...he rules...he even manages to coordinate the dynamic part of the performace....;) but...since i'm a hardcore Bach fan...i would say it's not 100% good...mainly because. it's not "Legato"...the notes are cut short, and that happens a lot in his version of Bach's 13th two part invention...you gotta check Glenn Gould's (the world-famous Bach interpreter and pianist) version of the same inversion...here it is...i've checked all of the Fulara videos...but putting that aside...the guy is simply AMAZING...
By the way, ArpEtude, if you're into baroque classical music, we can certainly have a lil' chat...Demonsorcerer@hotmail.com ....add me if you want...;)
David
Mateo150
03-10-2005, 05:41 AM
Gould, is he the guy that splices parts of performances together?
Gould is long gone, and he was the guy that hummed along - he was before the era of digital splicing.
But, yes, modern recorded piano music is often spliced together. These guys play to 99% of listeners perfectly every time and do recitals all over the world so they can obvisously play at the absolute highest standard. However when they make recordings they are perfectionists and hence multiple performances are spliced digitally in some cases.
satch_master
03-11-2005, 10:57 PM
god, this guy has a so good its scary 2 handed tapping technique. ive seen the bass great stu hamm play some mad classic tapping bass lines but this stuff is just crazy. im suprised this dude doesnt just become a pianist. lol.
silent-storm
03-13-2005, 03:22 AM
As good as this guy may be, I have to aggree that, I enjoy hearing guitars that sound like guitars and pianos that sound like pianos.
Still mighty impressive
Barking Pumpkin
03-13-2005, 05:42 AM
A few things...
The guy has amazing independence. After watching the first one, I wondered if he could actually play something with two separate voices, like one of the Inventions. The second video answered that question. I had to laugh at his expression and the "Darth Vader" breathing in the third video....^_^
However, this isn't really interesting to listen to beyond the "wow, he can do that" factor. I love Bach, and so far have learned his invention for two voices No. 1 on the piano. But these pieces are piano pieces. Playing it this way on guitar, it's just the technique. He's missing out on the subtleties of the song: the dynamics of the two voices on their own and the interaction between the two. Also, the tone when you're tapping like that isn't the best.
So, yes, it's amazing from a technical standpoint, but I don't think this is really using the guitar to its full potential as an instrument, it takes away from the quality of the guitar and the quality of the pieces. Outside of hearing them on piano, I'd much rather hear them as a duet between two guitars than as a solo guitar piece.
Not to sound so negative, just my view....that was awesome to watch.
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