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syan
11-12-2005, 12:42 AM
hi all,

I want to start getting into ear training and was reading an article by Vai where he recommended making a tape where you played a chord, then said what type it was, the idea being that when you listened to it you would try to guess what it was before the tape named the chord. So I am powertabbing out five different forms of majors, minors, minor sevenths, etc... The five forms I'm starting with are from the CAGED system. Unfortunately, my source for the other chord types doesn't have five Sixth forms. Can someone maybe powertab the basic forms out for me?

thanks

EricV
11-12-2005, 09:42 AM
Does this help ?

syan
11-12-2005, 04:21 PM
That's what I needed :) Thanks, Eric

leegordo
01-09-2008, 05:49 PM
leegordo here, Hey all you music schools out there! I've found that some cheap tutors out there use chords to test pupils to recognise chords. I have found that in the better class of testers that I have experienced, they play an arpeggio, then the chord, depending on the quality of the sound, I often could not hear the chord properly causing mistakes to be made It is just as difficult to identify an arpeggiod chord as it is a chord strummed or played, so no need to bring this point up as being the reason for needing the arpeggio . Try it and see.

syan
01-09-2008, 08:13 PM
Um... necro? Pointless necro?

Sorry, but I really don't understand the point of your post. It sounds like you're addressing "all you music schools out there," but if your intention is to address educational institutions, posting on an obscure thread is not the best way to do it.

Additionally, I would say that there is a difference in identifying a strummed chord and and arpeggiated chord, although the difference might be small. If I can't identify a strummed chord immediately, I can arpeggiate in my head and work it out from there. So I would disagree with you and say that it probably is harder to identify a strummed chord than an arpeggiated one. It seems like you're trying to criticize me for asking for chord forms to practice ear training with...?

Other than that, I have no idea why you are posting this... I asked a question two years ago and got an appropriate answer. Then I thanked Eric for his help... And now two years later you're posting something which... seems to have no relevance to my post.

Sorry, I'm just confused about this... The whole post seems strange to me.

Teletubby
01-10-2008, 01:13 AM
Guys, maybe try and be a bit more considerate?, as Lee Gordo is 83 years old...don't ask how I found that out (and sorry if it offends you to reveal your age sir) but I just thought that deserved some consideration. I know its hard to work with computers at first, so yeah, lets give him a chance :)
I read hes been teaching music for over 60 years...so yeah.


LeeGordo off UKMusic

AN OLD MUSICOLOGIST WHO USED TO TEACH AND PLAY JAZZ AND BALLROOM DANCE MUSIC ON KEYBOARDS. I SPECIALISE IN HARMONY THEORY AND CHORD STRUCTURING...

Jed
01-10-2008, 04:12 AM
Guys, maybe try and be a bit more considerate?, as Lee Gordo is 83 years old...don't ask how I found that out (and sorry if it offends you to reveal your age sir) but I just thought that deserved some consideration. I know its hard to work with computers at first, so yeah, lets give him a chance :)
I read hes been teaching music for over 60 years...so yeah.

With all due respect, in my experience most of the people here at IBM have bent over backwards trying to accommodate LeeGordo's rants and condescending rhetoric. I know that I've been struggling with much of his activity here. In response, I've just stayed away.

On the one hand, anyone that makes it to that kind of age deserves a little consideration and leeway. But there are limits to the consideration he is due, and IMO he exceeds those limits on a nearly hourly basis lately.

On the other hand, I do not care how long he's been "teaching" or how great he thinks he is / was. Time spent around music, playing or teaching is no guarantee of expertise or relevance.

We're trying Teletubby, truly we are. But he's not making is easy to extend the consideration that you seek. He doesn't seem to respond to any offer of respect and on those rare occasions when he actual responds to someone that addressed him directly, his rancor comes out in spades.

I'm afraid I don't see things ending well. I shudder to think how he would be received at other forums around the web based on how he conducts himself here.

cheers,

syan
01-10-2008, 07:01 PM
I don't see how my post was inconsiderate. I actually thought it was fairly polite. Perhaps if I was privy to leegordo's private information, I would have changed some of the wording (since he probably has no idea what a "necro" is), but the overall point of my post would not have changed.

Just like his age doesn't change the overall point of his post... which is all I was trying to decipher, because it is confusing. Someone replying to an ancient thread does not usually annoy me. But when someone replies to a thread you started, don't you usually want to understand their post? That's all I was looking for was some clarification, because I must have read his post twenty times trying to make sense of it.

To bring his age into this also seems vaguely insulting and misguided, as the only part of this that has anything to do with being Internet-savvy (which often has a correlation to age) is the knowledge that bringing two-year-old posts back from the dead is generally frowned upon. The necro itself hardly bothers me - if leegordo's post had offered anything that seemed useful or relevant to the topic under discussion, I would have thanked him for his help. All I am saying is, "I found your post difficult to read, due to your poor punctuation. It also appears to be addressed to music schools, which I am not. In addition, it does not appear to have any direct link to my original question. Please try to fix these problems so that I might understand what you are trying to say."

I even tried to address what I thought his point was... He seems to have the opinion that there is no difference between identifying a strummed chord or an arpeggiated one. Well, I disagree, but he is welcome to his opinion. Still, he then seems to be using his opinion to say, "so you had no reason to ask for these chords in the first place." I have a problem with this, because really, it's not his place to be saying such things. Is this really the atmosphere we want to create on these forums, where someone asks for information or help on a topic and is criticized for it?

Honestly, even if the thread wasn't over two-years-old already, was there any reason for leegordo to post what he did?