Could someone post a shape for the Egyptian scale in D major please?

[Sunkiller]

I just cant seem to find a shape out of scale diagrams, they just confuse me...

[guitarded]

egyptian in d on only the d string is 0-1-4-5-7-8-11-12 and box shape is
g----------------6-7-------------------------
d------4-5-7-8------------------------------
a-5-6----------------------------------------

and i think its sound best when you use it instant of the dominant phrygian mode which is 0-1-4-5-7-8-*10-12. that c instead of a c# makes all the difference in the sound. im pretty sure this is correct but i dunno im self taught. so ya what i usually do is go into d harmonic minor after d egyptian.

[TheJeffinator]

Here you go - 5 Tone Egyptian in D

E-----------------------8-10-12----------------------------------------15-17-20
B----------------8-10-(13)---------------------------------------15-17----------
G------------7-9----------------------------------------12-14-17----------------
D-----5-7-10------------------------------------12-14---------------------------
A-5-7---------------------------------10-12-15----------------------------------
E--------------------------------10-12-------------------------------------------

Take a pentatonic scale, make the b3 into a 2 - or consider it the A minor pentatonic scale starting on D (A C D E G...D E G A C). I think I did it fine, I'm just used to 7 string tabs so someone check my math for me.

If you are in fact looking for an Egyptian *sounding* scale and not the (improperly named, in my opinion) Egyptian scale, flatten the 2 and 4 to get a b2 and b4/M3, and add a b6 and M7 - D Eb Gb A Bb C Db D. Just covering all the bases.

Rock On,
The Jeffinator

[Sunkiller]

Thanks guys/girls, its a real help, D maj is currently my key of coice and I wanted to learn some more exotic scales.

[TheJeffinator]

Guitarded, that's a major scale with a flatted 2 and 6, or a Phrygian scale with a raised 4 and 7, for future reference.

Sunkiller, one of the best things to do for exotic sounds is play in a different key. Try playing the melodic or harmonic minor starting a half step up from the tonic, using the wrong pentatonic scale like John McLaughlin did in Birds of Fire, or slipping in and out of different scales and keys like Marty Friedman and you will be much more able to adapt to different settings. There's nothing wrong with D Major, but there are eleven other keys and they all have their own unique sounds when superimposed on one another.

Rock On,
The Jeffinator

[jade_bodhi]

Try playing the melodic or harmonic minor

Just for reference, what's the difference between a harmonic minor and a melodic minor. I've seen those referred to before and don't know what the difference is.

For example, use Am. And in addition to the differing notes in the scale, how are they differently applied. thank you for answering a basic question, just in time, you know.

JB

[TheJeffinator]

Melodic minor is a major scale with a minor 3rd, or Dorian minor with a natural 7th. (Key of Am - A B C D E F# G# A)

E---------------------------------7-8-10-12-etc----------
B--------------------------7-9-10------------------------
G-------------------5-7-9--------------------------------
D-------------6-7-9--------------------------------------
A-------5-7-9--------------------------------------------
E-5-7-8--------------------------------------------------




Harmonic minor is a natural minor scale with a major 7th. (Key of Am - A B C D E F G# A)

E-------------------------------------------10-12-13-16-17---
B-------------------------------9-10-12-13-------------------
G-----------------------7-9-10--------------------------------
D-------------6-7-9-10----------------------------------------
A-------5-7-8-------------------------------------------------
E-5-7-8-------------------------------------------------------


The Harmonic minor sound is a bit more recognizable because of the minor 3rd interval surrounded by half steps. It's more of an exotic sound in some modes and a classical sound in others. The Melodic minor is a bit more subtle, usually considered a bit more of a jazz thing, but it has an incredible sound when you use the scale starting a half step up from the tonic (this is called the Super Locrian mode, or the Locrian b4 - for Am/CM you would play in Db, which would be C# D# E F# G# A# B#(C) C#).

Their usage is a matter of taste - I usually slip in and out of them, especially with the Super Locrian mode. Unless you want to sound like you're playing from a different continent and have no intention of stopping. Marty Friedman uses all of this stuff well, check out his solo stuff.

I don't think I goofed the tab up, I'll correct it if I did.

Rock On,
The Jeffinator

[jade_bodhi]

The Harmonic minor sound is a bit more recognizable because of the minor 3rd interval surrounded by half steps. It's more of an exotic sound in some modes and a classical sound in others. The Melodic minor is a bit more subtle, usually considered a bit more of a jazz thing, but it has an incredible sound when you use the scale starting a half step up from the tonic (this is called the Super Locrian mode, or the Locrian b4 - for Am/CM you would play in Db, which would be C# D# E F# G# A# B#(C) C#).

Their usage is a matter of taste - I usually slip in and out of them, especially with the Super Locrian mode. Unless you want to sound like you're playing from a different continent and have no intention of stopping. Marty Friedman uses all of this stuff well, check out his solo stuff.

Very concise and informative. Thank you, Jeff. I'll experiment with these ideas.

JB