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I have great timing Problems.. Few months back, I was told to Practice with the Metronome, and I did... Now, I can play Perfectly with the Metronome.. I thought my timing problem was Solved..
But, yesterday, I tried playing with a backing track & recorded myself.. There was the same timing problem... I've also tried 1note per measure(whole note) with that track.. But, after perfectly playing some measures.. I just loose the Rhythm...
I've also tried tapping my foot... But, prob with that is, after sometime I unknowingly start to tap it faster..
So, any Suggestions?? Please Help me out of this mess...
The normal tendency is to get faster as the song goes along. Vocalists do this also, it's a common problem.
Originally Posted by rock66
Click track ear bud? If the vocalist has the tendency of speeding up and you have been keeping time with a steady beat -- it may be the vocalist that is the problem.........
Ole time Rock and Roll - Country, etc. keep time with the vocalist, i.e. the vocalist is the metronome, one note per lyric word. Something each band has to work out.
Go to http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f22/ and ask this question there.
Last edited by Malcolm; 06-23-2012 at 09:43 PM.
Originally Posted by Malcolm
Thanx for the reply..
I don't play in a band anymore.. So, no vocalist issues... I was talking about my personal practice..I think, The problem occurs when a lot of instruments are playing (like in the Backing track)..
Even Sir Paul uses a click track. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obFcsEtFIKA
Remember he is left handed.........
Maybe you're listening to the wrong instruments! Try listening to nothing but the drums.
Originally Posted by rock66
To improve your own sense of time, work with a metronome set to half speed. IOW, if you want to practice something at 120 set the metronome to 60 - while you play at 120. This forces you to get those in-between beats in the right place.
The typical problem is to speed up - to play the beats early. That's because you havem't internalised a system of subdividing beats in your head: hearing all those 8ths and 16ths even when they're not being played. That's the skill the slow metronome encourages you to develop.
Check this out, for some ideas (but beyond 5:30 or so it gets unnecessarily complicated! - you need plenty of exercise with the simpler strategies before you try that.)
Our drummer has a timing problem too, and He was hard to get along with us, mostly when it comes in fast beat but finally after two months of practice with a metronome, he is also overcome it.
Last edited by Clevshred; 07-14-2012 at 07:00 AM.
John is right...I would sugest something more drastic.
Start with the metronome unconfortably slow and increase the pace from there. A good technique is to start really slow and after 1 minute increase it 2 bpm at a time.
Q: How do you know there's a drummer at your door?
Originally Posted by Clevshred
A: The knocking speeds up.
You need a balance between exact timing and keeping the warmth of your rhythms and the "human touch"
Even professionals don't play each beat or bar in exactly the same way. When programmers try to achieve the same effect in software they may need to introduce little variations in the timing from one bar to the next to try to give it a bit of human like variety. That's part of what gives a real time performance its charm perhaps, and why sometimes even the most amateur playing, even with all its raggedness, may yet still be so heartening and charming and enjoyable and full of life and spirit.
Just thought of something I used when I was first starting out. Our vocalist also accompanies his vocals playing rhythm guitar at the same time as he is singing. I know you do not have a vocalist - but, periodically I would watch the vocalist's strumming hand and see if we both were strumming the same rhythm. So.......
..... Yes to locking in on someone or some instrument. Someone is responsible for the beat, you just need to find who that is. I also play bass, we bassists lock in on the kick drum, or the high hat, I go with the kick drum.
No drums, if not we (the bass) are responsible for the beat.
On your backing tracks listen for the kick drum it normally cuts through, unless you are used to listening for the bass, you may have problems picking out the bass.
And yes - no one I play with keeps exact time, but, we stay together. Flow with what is happening, relax and enjoy the groove.
Last edited by Malcolm; 11-14-2012 at 04:39 PM.
Have a look at this page for exercises to improve timekeeping
focus on hearing the next beat in advance as you play. this will get you to anticipate the music in advance and get your playing to be in time.
i think it's a common problem, which will be solved by practice.
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