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Thread: Equipentatonic revisited

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    Equipentatonic revisited

    Sven was so kind to retrieve these links. I thought they were really cool and the discussion was intriguing. So I'm reposting them (sorry if there are any popups at these places):

    Pygmy tribes using equipentatonic:
    http://infohost.nmt.edu/~jstarret/pygmies.html
    Ethnomusicology:
    http://musicweb.hmt-hannover.de/esc...e/ZurcherE.html
    Microtonality:
    http://persweb.wabash.edu/facstaff/...r/microton.html

    This is a GREAT place!
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    Got any ideas on how to tune up even if you dont have a fancy tuner?
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    I can create an audio file tonight. If I have the formula correct. Starting at 440Hz, the octave would be double.

    Add to 440: 0/5, 1/5, 2/5, 3/5, 4/5

    So starting at 440Hz:

    440Hz, 528Hz, 616Hz, 704Hz, 792Hz, 880Hz

    Is that correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by =Bob=
    I can create an audio file tonight. If I have the formula correct. Starting at 440Hz, the octave would be double.

    Add to 440: 0/5, 1/5, 2/5, 3/5, 4/5

    So starting at 440Hz:

    440Hz, 528Hz, 616Hz, 704Hz, 792Hz, 880Hz

    Is that correct?
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    Yeah it makes sense but my tuner doesnt read that way. I think it's alittle bit more math since the tuner always reffers to 440. Maybe the first note is 440, the next one you have to tune to another note but go 440 plus X and then next one tune to another note and go 440 plus XX etc....
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    I made it, hope it makes sense. It's 6 tones. Starts on the tonic, finishes on the octave. Each tone is 2 secs long. Let me know if it works for you.
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    Wow, it's kool. Can you make it run up and down the scale alittle faster? For fun.
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    How fast? Right now it's 2 seconds per tone. Want more tones too? I could do quite a few more.
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    1/2 second each
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    1/2 sec each, 21 tones, including the top octave...
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    Thanks for that =Bob=, I enjoyed it.
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    0.2 secs each, 21 tones in all, up and down...Starting to sound like a detuned diminished arpeggio...
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    Quote Originally Posted by =Bob=
    I can create an audio file tonight. If I have the formula correct. Starting at 440Hz, the octave would be double.

    Add to 440: 0/5, 1/5, 2/5, 3/5, 4/5

    So starting at 440Hz:

    440Hz, 528Hz, 616Hz, 704Hz, 792Hz, 880Hz

    Is that correct?
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    440=A
    440/9=49+440=489
    440/7=63+440=502
    440/5=88+440=528
    440/3=147+440=587
    440/2=220+440=660

    maybe it's something like this\

    I do know that you don't need a tuner to do it. I've seen it done.
    Last edited by hairballxavier; 04-13-2005 at 09:36 AM.

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    Why are you dividing by 9,7,5,3,2? It's pentatonic, which means 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by =Bob=
    Why are you dividing by 9,7,5,3,2? It's pentatonic, which means 5.
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    I have no clue, It's only half an octave anyways. It was very late and I was very tired when I posted that. Feel free to disregard it.

    I knew an African drummer who made what he called equipentatonic drumset and he didn't use a tuner to make them. He could change the pitch of the notes by the way he hit the skins, so he could produce virtually any tone he wanted to on them. I'm just trying to remember the method he used to tune them. He got deported and I lost contact with him. (actually he may be dead, He fled his country so save his own skin). So I can't ask him.

    Nice work BTW.
    Last edited by hairballxavier; 04-13-2005 at 08:42 PM.

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    I was just curious. I imagine tuning equipentatonic by ear wouldn't be too difficult. After listening to the samples I made, it's very diminished sounding, just a little flat. Tuning percussive instruments would be more difficult for me, I never had a good ear for it. Had some congas once...
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