Hi everyone. In a recent score i have encountered a few symbols that have confused me. I know that they are to clarify the beating of the signatures, but i'm not sure how. There is the "goalpost" style symbol and the "triangle" one. I have also come across another triangle one with another triangle within it. Any help would be greatly appriciated.
Stately, plump Steve Bridgland.
Can you supply a gif?
"Listen to the Spaces Between the sounds."
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Yeah, this would be helpful - I can't figure out what you mean.
Guni
Here are the musical symbols defined in the current (I think) Unicode standard. This image doesn't answer the question, but it does include a number of symbols I've never seen before, including a few triangles. Is your symbol included in this set?
Triangles are used as noteheads in percussion notation--pointing both up and down, both open (or white) and closed (or black). Real popular in conga and bongo rhythm notation.
Last edited by Bongo Boy; 02-17-2003 at 01:33 PM.
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No, it's none of the symbols above. I'll try to find some pics...No, i don't have any. I'll try to explain further and hopefully in a more understandable way!
The kind of symbol i am wondering about is used mostly in 20th century orchestral works that use highly complex time signatures that change very often. I believe they are for the conductors use so he knows how to "beat" the section to the group. I'll try and make that clearer. Say for example the piece has a bar of 5/8, there are several ways of beating this, i.e 2,2,1 or 3,2 or 2,3 etc. So, the symbols are ways of telling the conductor how the section is supposed to be counted. I would just like to know if anyone has explanations for the symbols as i do not know what they represent.
I may have just made this more confusing....sorry!
Stately, plump Steve Bridgland.
I'm quite interested in this. I do have a few scores from this period but the ones you describe seem to use a diferent terminology.
What's the title of the piece? Composer?
Guni
The piece is actually Le Marteau sans Maitre by Pierre Boulez. Fantastic piece and incredibly complex!
Stately, plump Steve Bridgland.
While I can't answer the question, I certainly can add to the confusion. The interested student may find the following site appealing--that topic of serialism comes up again.
http://www.apu.ac.uk/music/rhoadley/...sem_boulez.php
I would think the following quote from the site would, of itself, stimulate the curiosity of many of our members:
Unlike Boulez's earlier settings of Char's poetry, Le marteau sans maître is scored for a small ensemble; its contralto soloist is complemented only by alto flute, xylorimba, vibraphone, percussion, guitar and viola. Char's three poems are embedded in a nine-movement structure of interlacing settings and related instrumental movements. Recalling the cellular style of late Webern, Boulez cultivated a certain rhythmic monotony, emphasized by his use of the percussion in some of the movements. This is offset by abrupt tempo transitions, passages of broadly improvisatory melodic style, and - not least of all - the fascination of exotic instrumental colouring, underlining the work's basically static conception. Grove
Last edited by Bongo Boy; 02-24-2003 at 01:08 AM.
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Huh ?
This might not help much either, but Frank Zappa referred to "Le Marteau sans Maitre" several times. I think he liked it a lot
Eric
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