Picking Sequence Exercises

szulc · 08-06-2002, 01:29 AM

Descending E Minor Harmonic Triplets Ascending
Using octave type pattern for scale

szulc · 08-06-2002, 01:31 AM

Alernating Descending and Ascending E Minor Harmonic Quintuplets Descending
Using octave type patterns.

szulc · 12-18-2002, 01:21 PM

It seems like this thread should have generated some questions or comments, it had no replys the first time around. Trying again.
There are two Ideas going on here. One is to show the concept of generating mathematical sequences, th other is the use of octave type scales and the complexity of the picking that it creates.

Bizarro · 12-18-2002, 09:45 PM

Interesting, but most people don't like 4 notes on one string! It's so much easier to switch strings than to switch hand positions.

The first pattern is fairly common in 80's rock. The second pattern of using 5 note groupings is much more interesting. It fools the ear into thinking that something more complex is happening.

Van Halen uses that type of 5 note grouping (but usually pentatonic based note selection) in many of his masterpieces, including Eruption.

szulc · 12-19-2002, 06:03 AM

I don't switch had positions on these, I just stretch my index down and my pinky up. Also do you see the symmetry of these fingerings?
Can you give some examples of where you heard the first pattern before?

Chim_Chim · 12-19-2002, 10:46 AM

Well I like 4 notes per string patterns(sometimes even more notes per string).

I like these ideas alot szulc,very cool ! Thanks for posting them.

I'll put these to good use as I'm a Harmonic minor fan.

Do you have any unusual ideas for diminished 7th arpeggio sequences ?

Chim_Chim

szulc · 12-19-2002, 12:36 PM

Oh yes!

Chim_Chim · 12-19-2002, 05:58 PM

...thought you might

Bizarro · 12-20-2002, 03:43 AM

James, unfortunately I can't remember where I heard the first pattern. I seem to think it's either Warren DeMartini or Jake E Lee that played something like that. It was also one of my main exercises when I was a teenager! That pattern takes a lot of effort to play cleanly and quickly, especially with the patterns that I use. I typically use diatonic or pentatonic ideas with that pattern, and it sounds good (to me) at warp speed.

I see the symmetry of those fingerings, but I must have a mental block with 4 notes per string. I can practice it fine, but it never comes out in my improv work.

Have you tried applying those ideas to a pure diminished scale? My ear wants to hear me play both: the C-B-C combination, and then also a Db-C-Db combination.

szulc · 12-20-2002, 04:57 AM

Dim 7th Sequences

szulc · 12-20-2002, 04:59 AM

I have heard the pattern done using pentatonics but I haven't heard many example in a diatonic context.

szulc · 12-20-2002, 05:00 AM

More Dim7 Sequences
16th notes Ascending
This is using 1-1 slides.
The fingering is 1 4 2 1(s)1 2 4 1.

szulc · 12-20-2002, 05:01 AM

Dim7 16ths ascending again.
This is using 4-4 slides.
The fingering is 4 2 1 4(s)4 1 2 4.

szulc · 12-20-2002, 05:02 AM

Dim7 Quintuplets Ascending.
This is using 4-4 and 1-1 slides.
The fingering is 1 4 2 1 4(S)4 1 2 4 1(S).

szulc · 12-20-2002, 05:03 AM

Dim7 Quintuplets Descending.
is is using 4-4 and 1-1 slides.
The fingering is 4 1 2 4 1(S)1 4 2 1 4(S).

12-18-2002, 01:21 PM	#3
szulc Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Jackson MS Posts: 2,234	Thread Resurrection It seems like this thread should have generated some questions or comments, it had no replys the first time around. Trying again. There are two Ideas going on here. One is to show the concept of generating mathematical sequences, th other is the use of octave type scales and the complexity of the picking that it creates. __________________ "Listen to the Spaces Between the sounds." Szulc's Site

12-18-2002, 09:45 PM	#4
Bizarro IbreatheMusic Author Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 1,868	Interesting, but most people don't like 4 notes on one string! It's so much easier to switch strings than to switch hand positions. The first pattern is fairly common in 80's rock. The second pattern of using 5 note groupings is much more interesting. It fools the ear into thinking that something more complex is happening. Van Halen uses that type of 5 note grouping (but usually pentatonic based note selection) in many of his masterpieces, including Eruption. __________________ -Bizarro Google is your friend

12-19-2002, 06:03 AM	#5
szulc Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Jackson MS Posts: 2,234	I don't switch had positions on these, I just stretch my index down and my pinky up. Also do you see the symmetry of these fingerings? Can you give some examples of where you heard the first pattern before? __________________ "Listen to the Spaces Between the sounds." Szulc's Site

12-19-2002, 10:46 AM	#6
Chim_Chim chewing bubble gum Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 569	Well I like 4 notes per string patterns(sometimes even more notes per string). I like these ideas alot szulc,very cool ! Thanks for posting them. I'll put these to good use as I'm a Harmonic minor fan. Do you have any unusual ideas for diminished 7th arpeggio sequences ? Chim_Chim __________________ "I agree to disagree with just about the entire planet." - Kirk Lorange

12-19-2002, 12:36 PM	#7
szulc Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Jackson MS Posts: 2,234	Oh yes! __________________ "Listen to the Spaces Between the sounds." Szulc's Site

12-19-2002, 05:58 PM	#8
Chim_Chim chewing bubble gum Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 569	...thought you might __________________ "I agree to disagree with just about the entire planet." - Kirk Lorange

12-20-2002, 04:59 AM	#11
szulc Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Jackson MS Posts: 2,234	Common 80's pattern I have heard the pattern done using pentatonics but I haven't heard many example in a diatonic context. __________________ "Listen to the Spaces Between the sounds." Szulc's Site

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