overlapping the left hand

brent · 01-01-2006, 06:32 AM

I have seen piano players overlap their left hand what is this called ?

what is the use of overlapping the left hand over the right hand used for?

brent · 01-25-2006, 02:45 AM

which composers used the overlapping the left hand over the right hand ?

SeattleRuss · 01-25-2006, 04:01 AM

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I have seen piano players overlap their left hand what is this called ?

Left hand cross.

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what is the use of overlapping the left hand over the right hand used for?

It's used to "set up" licks, much like a boxer "sets you up" with a left jab, then delivers a right cross.

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which composers used the overlapping the left hand over the right hand ?

Bach
Handel
Papa Hayden
Doctor John
Liberace
Art Tatum
Bud Powell
Chick Corea
Harpo Marx
Condoleeza Rice

just off the top of my head.....I';m sure there are many more.

brent · 01-25-2006, 04:09 AM

Thanks for the help

So its called Left hand cross?

Can u please give me some basic information to advance examples on how to use this Left hand cross?

I just don't know how to use Left hand cross can u show me ?

widdly widdly · 01-25-2006, 04:54 AM

When a player has a case of the yips, he or she is experiencing involuntary movements of the hands or wrists. This occurs almost exclusively on short putts, about five feet or less.

One cure for the yips that players have used over the years is the cross-handed putting grip. This grip is also known as "left hand low" because the left hand is placed below the right hand -- opposite of the traditional grip for a right-handed player.

The purpose of the cross-handed grip is to stabilize the left wrist, which frequently breaks down when a player is suffering from the yips. Without a firm left wrist, it is impossible to put a smooth, pendulum-like stroke on the ball.

Another advantage of the cross-handed grip is that it lowers the left shoulder, putting the player in a better starting position to make a true pendulum motion with the arms during the putting stroke.

If you are having trouble making a smooth stroke on short putts, give the cross-handed grip a try.

forgottenking2 · 01-25-2006, 03:16 PM

Golf... hmmm I should try it. They say it's relaxing. And I don't know how Brent has time to practice if he spends all his time asking questions

mattblack850 · 01-25-2006, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by forgottenking2

Golf... hmmm I should try it. They say it's relaxing. And I don't know how Brent has time to practice if he spends all his time asking questions

Well, he used to spend all his time practicing asking questions, but after years of hard work and dedication he seems to have that off to a 'Tee'!!!

Now, hard work, dedication and constant improvement, I wonder what else you could apply these principles too?

brent · 01-25-2006, 09:18 PM

How does composers or piano players use cross-handed?

What are some melodies/licks/phrases that use cross handed please?

Wolfgang · 01-25-2006, 09:23 PM

brent :I have seen piano players overlap their left hand what is this called ?

brent :How does composers or piano players use cross-handed?

mattblack850 · 01-25-2006, 09:23 PM

One of the most obvious tracks that demonstrates this technique would be Queens 'Bohemian Rhapsody'.

http://www.youtube.com/w/Queen---Boh...M&search=queen

I've even found the video for you so you can see it in action!

*Zatz* · 01-25-2006, 09:26 PM

Yes!!! That's right! Very good example, Matt!

brent · 01-25-2006, 09:27 PM

Yes but why did Freddy use this cross hand what is it used for and why?

mattblack850 · 01-25-2006, 09:30 PM

The reason for him using it is purely to keep the right hand positioned in the same place and then extend the melody up by using the left hand. It's pure ergonomics, it saves trying to overstretch the right hand when you don't need to.

*Zatz* · 01-25-2006, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by brent

Yes but why did Freddy use this cross hand what is it used for and why?

I would say it was just convenient.

*Zatz* · 01-25-2006, 09:31 PM

hehe, we replied in sync

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mattblack850 Modally Challenged!!!! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: At the bottom of another Bottle of Brown Ale. Posts: 1,600	One of the most obvious tracks that demonstrates this technique would be Queens 'Bohemian Rhapsody'. http://www.youtube.com/w/Queen---Boh...M&search=queen I've even found the video for you so you can see it in action! __________________ Matt Plays the Blues on MySpace!! Last edited by mattblack850; 01-25-2006 at 09:28 PM.

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Zatz Mode Rator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kiev, Ukraine Posts: 1,344	Yes!!! That's right! Very good example, Matt! __________________ Zadd9 -> A6 -> T#9b5 -> Zmaj7

01-25-2006, 02:45 AM	#2
brent Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 559	which composers used the overlapping the left hand over the right hand ?

01-25-2006, 04:09 AM	#4
brent Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 559	Thanks for the help So its called Left hand cross? Can u please give me some basic information to advance examples on how to use this Left hand cross? I just don't know how to use Left hand cross can u show me ?

01-25-2006, 04:54 AM	#5
widdly widdly Registered Abuser Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: singapore Posts: 394	When a player has a case of the yips, he or she is experiencing involuntary movements of the hands or wrists. This occurs almost exclusively on short putts, about five feet or less. One cure for the yips that players have used over the years is the cross-handed putting grip. This grip is also known as "left hand low" because the left hand is placed below the right hand -- opposite of the traditional grip for a right-handed player. The purpose of the cross-handed grip is to stabilize the left wrist, which frequently breaks down when a player is suffering from the yips. Without a firm left wrist, it is impossible to put a smooth, pendulum-like stroke on the ball. Another advantage of the cross-handed grip is that it lowers the left shoulder, putting the player in a better starting position to make a true pendulum motion with the arms during the putting stroke. If you are having trouble making a smooth stroke on short putts, give the cross-handed grip a try.

01-25-2006, 09:18 PM	#8
brent Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 559	How does composers or piano players use cross-handed? What are some melodies/licks/phrases that use cross handed please?

01-25-2006, 09:27 PM	#12
brent Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 559	Yes but why did Freddy use this cross hand what is it used for and why?

01-25-2006, 09:30 PM	#13
mattblack850 Modally Challenged!!!! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: At the bottom of another Bottle of Brown Ale. Posts: 1,600	The reason for him using it is purely to keep the right hand positioned in the same place and then extend the melody up by using the left hand. It's pure ergonomics, it saves trying to overstretch the right hand when you don't need to. __________________ Matt Plays the Blues on MySpace!!

01-25-2006, 09:31 PM	#15
Zatz Mode Rator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kiev, Ukraine Posts: 1,344	hehe, we replied in sync __________________ Zadd9 -> A6 -> T#9b5 -> Zmaj7

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